Think it would have been better if they had made it default for quickplay to really close the MOTD, without any in background "running" of a site that happens after.
Or a addition of a button, that they have a "close" button to blank the page and exit the MOTD and not been able to re-open it for 20 min, and a "background" button to keep it in background, (for internet radio etc). >________________________________ > From: Marco Padovan <[email protected]> >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ><[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013, 11:27 >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support > > >I'll be shutting down ~20 servers around europe due to this change, as >there will be no interest for me to spend resources if I can't even put a >nice motd for quickplay users. >I think we will just see the valve paid servers in quickplay ;) > > >On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Erik-jan Riemers <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In the last half year to a year, all my quickplay servers died to almost 0 >> players on it. I assume its also because of the fast majority of servers >> being put in to make money. All my NON quickplay servers are pretty full >> and even more then it used to be. Now there might be a shift. I dont think >> i will loose players if they add more non quickplay servers since thats a >> pool of people that dont use quickplay in the first place. >> >> >> 2013/11/7 Todd Pettit <[email protected]> >> >> > Agreed. but if the vast majority of players connect through quickplay and >> > it cuts deeply in to server Ad revenue, which seems likely, then admins >> > will be looking elsewhere and those are the logical places to go. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "DontWannaName!" <[email protected]> >> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < >> > [email protected]> >> > Cc: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < >> > [email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 8:02:21 PM >> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support >> > >> > A server can be listed in the browser and still be in quickplay... >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone 5 >> > >> > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Todd Pettit <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > I am just saying there will be more because servers who were relying >> > only on ads to fund their servers or generate revenue will surely move >> into >> > those types of servers. >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Aaron Thompson" <[email protected]> >> > > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < >> > [email protected]> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:51:21 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support >> > > >> > > There would be regardless if what valve does. >> > > >> > > Sincerely, >> > > Aaron >> > >> On Nov 6, 2013 6:50 PM, "Todd Pettit" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Yes and now there will be hundreds more jailbreak, freak fortress and >> > >> trade servers for you to compete with. >> > >> >> > >> Good show indeed. >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "Aaron Thompson" <[email protected]> >> > >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < >> > >> [email protected]> >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 7:40:53 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD support >> > >> >> > >> I wasn't so sure about this, and honestly doesn't affect me because I >> > run >> > >> trade servers and jailbreak, but it seems fine. If you join the >> server, >> > you >> > >> don't have to download any HTML junk and don't have to watch any >> > ads...but >> > >> if you like the server, save to favorites and reconnect you see >> whatever >> > >> the HTML page is, depending on whether or not the client has HTML >> > enabled. >> > >> Guys, this is a victory for matchmaking clients who just want to play >> > and >> > >> not get spammed by the servers they join. I like it. Valve, please >> roll >> > it >> > >> out in a way that doesn't break the game and people like me are cool >> > with >> > >> the change #1. Good show! >> > >> >> > >> Sincerely, >> > >> Aaron >> > >>> On Nov 6, 2013 6:30 PM, "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> From what I heard ads needed to be watched for X seconds before being >> > >> paid. >> > >>> Any communities that were reliant on ads being served to quickplay >> > users >> > >>> would have already shut down by now. >> > >>> >> > >>> This new limitation just seems to serve as an annoyance to perfectly >> > >>> legitimate server owners rather than to kill off all ad supported >> > >> servers. >> > >>> >> > >>> I hope there will be more people who share my views rather than >> > thinking: >> > >>> oh good Valve is going to shut down more of our competition. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, N-Gon <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Oddly enough, a handful of communities have been shut down because >> of >> > >> the >> > >>>> recent changes. This one will affect a few more. >> > >>>> Can't say I'm saddened by this since those communities were cancer >> to >> > >>> TF2. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Robert Paulson < >> [email protected] >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Can you tell us the reason for this change? Is there no other >> > >> solution >> > >>>>> rather than removing functionality from the game? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> The complaint before was forced ads. Servers cannot resend the MOTD >> > >> to >> > >>>>> quickplay players anymore so I don't understand why additional >> > >>>> restrictions >> > >>>>> need to be introduced. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> HTML motds are superior to text motds even only shown at >> connection. >> > >>> They >> > >>>>> look better and they allow you to update the page without rebooting >> > >> the >> > >>>>> server. Especially when it comes to TF2 players, no one is going to >> > >> pay >> > >>>>> attention to an unformatted wall of text that could contain >> important >> > >>>> rules >> > >>>>> or links to your website. With these new restrictions both the >> > >> webpage >> > >>>> and >> > >>>>> the text file needs to be maintained. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Fletcher Dunn >> > >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> It's something enforced by the client, and is a function of how >> > >> they >> > >>>>>> connected to that particular server, not any particular server >> > >>>> settings. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> If they connect via the server browser (or command line, etc) then >> > >>> they >> > >>>>>> will show HTML. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> > >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> > >>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd >> > >> Pettit >> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:41 PM >> > >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD >> > >>> support >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Would those who connected outside of matchmaking be able to use >> > >> html >> > >>> on >> > >>>>>> quickplay enabled servers or does enabling quickplay disable html >> > >>>>>> completely? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>>>> From: "Valentin G." <[email protected]> >> > >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" < >> > >>>>>> [email protected]> >> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:29:32 PM >> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD >> > >>> support >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> I'm not concerned about change 1 but change 2 in that regard ;) >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM, DontWannaName! < >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Couldn't you just leave the txt file empty? >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:22 PM, "Valentin G." <[email protected] >> > >>> >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> about:blank is no longer valid? >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Fletcher Dunn >> > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> That's correct; #2 is a Source engine change. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> > >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle >> > >>>>>>>>> Sanderson >> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:09 PM >> > >>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Coming soon: changes to TF HTML MOTD >> > >>>>>>>>> support >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Does the latter impact all Source 2k7 games? >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>>>>>>>> Kyle. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Fletcher Dunn >> > >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> We're making two changes to TF HTML MOTD support that server >> > >>>>>>>>>> operators should be aware of: >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 1.) HTML MOTD's will no longer be shown by clients that >> > >>>> connect >> > >>>>>> via >> > >>>>>>>>>> quickplay. Those clients will show the plaintext message >> > >>>> instead. >> > >>>>>>>>>> (The file identified by the convar motdfile_text, which >> > >>> defaults >> > >>>>>>>>>> to >> > >>>>>>>>>> motd_text.txt.) >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2.) When sending a URL to the "info" panel by name, the >> > >> URL >> > >>>> must >> > >>>>>>> begin >> > >>>>>>>>>> with 'http://' or 'https://'. Note that this change does >> > >> not >> > >>>>>>>>>> affect putting a URL in motd.txt directly, which has always >> > >>>>>>>>>> required a protocol prefix in order for the file contents to >> > >> be >> > >>>>>>>>>> interpreted as a >> > >>>>>>>>> URL. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >>>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >> > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > >>>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >> > >>>> 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