>From the fountain in the SW corner of Lake Geneva, you can estimate the time of day and the wind strength & direction. Victor
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 18:42, Hannes Röst <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Jeff > > Thanks so much for your enthusiasm, your response time is fantastic! > > I like PicLayer but using only 3 points I could never get the map to align > properly (which is a defect of the map for sure). It works well for maps > that are drawn more recently and dont need warping, e.g building outlines > or archeological dig site maps. > > PS: if you love these ortho layes, you will love these > > photos: > https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=de&topic=swisstopo&bgLayer=voidLayer&X=185466.05&Y=647539.98&zoom=1&layers=ch.swisstopo.swissimage-product&time=1979&layers_timestamp=1979&catalogNodes=1430 > > maps: > https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=swisstopo&zoom=2&lang=de&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&catalogNodes=1392&layers=ch.swisstopo.zeitreihen&time=1864&layers_timestamp=18641231&E=2665750.00&N=1208625.00 > > > (from here > https://www.swisstopo.admin.ch/de/online/maps-online/journey-images.html > ) unfortunately these are clearly not under a free license > > *Gesendet:* Montag, 13. Juli 2020 um 11:57 Uhr > *Von:* "Jeff Meyer" <[email protected]> > *An:* "Hannes Röst" <[email protected]> > *Cc:* "Open Historical Map" <[email protected]> > *Betreff:* Re: [OHM] Available background layers in editor > Hi Hannes - > > I LOVE these layers. Thank you!!! > > This tweet contains diagrams that show how to add those layers (1 at a > time) to iD: https://twitter.com/OpenHistMap/status/1279135482283085824 > > The general problem you're describing (not having cool historic > baselayers automatically show up in iD) could be solved by having an > OHM-specific Editor Layer Index ( > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index) & having OHM's iD point at > that. That's a brilliant idea. I've opened a ticket to do just that. It > might actually be relatively easy, but "easy" things rarely are & still > take work. : ) (https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues/122) > A cool side note: ELI works in JOSM with a small preference setting change. > 2 for the price of 1. > > And, THANK YOU for editing the Wiki page. Fortune favors the bold, my > friend! > (Piclayer can indeed be fussy, but with a little practice, it's pretty > cool) > > Those Orthos are quite cool, as well. > > These are all awesome & exciting suggestions - I encourage others to share > their thoughts and experiences and to check out Hannes' links. > > : ) > Jeff > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:55 PM Hannes Röst <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear Jeff and others >> >> Currently the default iD editor seems to have the same background >> layers available as OSM and I currently dont see any customization for >> OHM. I think it would be cool to have a few pre-set options to choose >> from to get people started. I know this can be configured to be region >> specific (for example if I go to Switzerland, Thurgau then the "Kanton >> Thurgau OF 2017" shows up but nowhere else since these fotos are only >> there for Thurgau) so it would be great to collect a bunch of >> background tiles one could use. >> >> Digital Atlas of the Roman Empire (DARE): >> https://dh.gu.se/tiles/imperium/{z}/{x}/{y}.png (CC BY 4.0, Europe >> specific) >> Sulzberger map: >> http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps/tile/3271/{z}/{x}/{y}.png (CC0, >> location-specific) >> >> I think this could help "newbies" quite a bit and give them a cool >> place to start mapping. It could also help with attribution since we >> could store what source information was used for each object and edit. >> The least we could do is collect a few "interesting" layers on the >> wiki and help newbies to get started. >> >> Of course eventually this could be location and time-period specific >> and the "right" background map could just show up "magically" on the >> right side for mapping. >> >> I know that this functionality already exists on the Warper side (eg >> http://warper.wmflabs.org/maps//3271#Trace_tab) but there are more >> maps out there then what Warper has and some countries provide tiles >> for historic maps. Have you previously thought about that? >> >> Secondly, it took me some time (and struggling with the very limited >> PicLayer JOSM plugging that can only use 3 control points and seems to >> do very limited warping) to actually find the Warper and the wiki page >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapWarper is only mentioned once >> in a long list of tools. I was bold and added this workflow to the >> wiki page myself: >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map#How_to_trace_a_historic_map_in_OHM >> for other to find more easily >> >> Thirdly, just to bother you more with my usecase: the Swiss Cantons >> provide access to Orthofotos layers and they have them historic! >> (yay!). Now that may be a cool usecase for this to play around: >> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Switzerland - for example grab >> the >> >> Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2013 {view} >> Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2015 {view} >> Kanton Glarus Orthophoto 2017 {view} >> >> and you have historic 4 years of Orthophoto (Switzerland has these >> going back to the 70s but probably not all under suitable licence). >> >> >> >> Best >> >> Hannes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Historic mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic > > > > -- > Jeff Meyer > 206-676-2347 > osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user > page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> > t: @OpenHistMap > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Historic mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic > _______________________________________________ > Historic mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >
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