Well, that'd be helpful info, eh? Today!
Hope you can make it, sorry for the late clarification, Jeff On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 8:49 AM [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Which day at 1:30pm PT? > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:12 PM Jeff Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The meeting with the developers will be this week at 1:30pm PT on Google >> Hangouts - meet.google.com/dtq-ykqr-jdo. >> >> Please let me know if you'll attend or have any specific questions or >> thoughts. Jerry's are great. >> >> Thanks, >> Jeff >> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:30 AM Jeff Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jerry - >>> >>> First of all, clearly, you know more about the JOSM extension world than >>> I do. I just know it's tough to do edits with data from a bunch of time >>> periods in the same area. >>> >>> Any chance you could help me guide these efforts? : ) >>> >>> I haven't set up a time yet, but we could work around your schedule. If >>> you could join us, that would be great! >>> >>> For your questions, see my current draft answers below & I'm open to >>> correction / suggestions for any of them. >>> >>> Would you create a standalone OHM plugin? >>> - I'm not sure. Do you mean "not an internal JOSM plugin?" What I had in >>> mind was an OHM editing plugin that you could select from the Preferences >>> panel and was assuming that was not a JOSM internal plugin. What do you >>> suggest is the best approach. >>> >>> Would the code reside on GitHub? Josm still lives in SVN & the mirror >>> Github repo is about 6 months out-of-date >>> - I was aware that JOSM was in SVN and assumed that that would be the >>> best place to keep it. >>> >>> Have you considered the JOSM Scripting >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Scripting> plugin? >>> This might be a way of achieving endpoint toggling w/o touching Jsom core. >>> - I had not! I'll check into it. To be far, endpoint toggling is not the >>> core interest! >>> >>> Validation has been in Josm core since 2013. What approach would you >>> want to use for the validation/missing data flagging? >>> - Again, this is new to me, but in looking, I'd think we'd want to host >>> the rules on an external URL from the normal JOSM validator rules, as those >>> are OSM specific. Then, maybe add the rules with the same scripting tool >>> that flips the end point? Does that make sense? >>> >>> How would you plan maintenance? I'm always a bit flabbergasted how many >>> plugins stop working when I spin up a version which is a few months old. >>> - Great Q, and one that I'd need to discuss with the developers. My >>> guess is this would be a model where we'd wait until it broke, call up the >>> devs and ask for a fix. Not the greatest model, as it's "just too late" >>> instead of "just in time," but also probably more reasonable from a cost >>> perspective. Unless, of course, we had a JOSM-plugin-smart member of the >>> community who could help with that maintenance... >>> >>> Any thoughts, suggestions? This whole idea is a blank slate right now. >>> It'd be really great if you could join me on the call (and no additional >>> duty beyond that... unless you want it! : ) ) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:29 AM SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jeff, >>>> >>>> Just some general queries about how you plan to do this? >>>> >>>> - Would you create a standalone OHM plugin? >>>> - Would the code reside on GitHub? Josm still lives in SVN & the >>>> mirror Github repo is about 6 months out-of-date >>>> - Have you considered the JOSM Scripting >>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Scripting> >>>> plugin? This might be a way of achieving endpoint toggling w/o touching >>>> Jsom core. >>>> - Validation has been in Josm core since 2013. What approach would >>>> you want to use for the validation/missing data flagging? >>>> - How would you plan maintenance? I'm always a bit flabbergasted >>>> how many plugins stop working when I spin up a version which is a few >>>> months old. >>>> >>>> Personally, I'd be hesitant about anything which may require >>>> integration/forking/… with Josm core. Largely because it's enormous and >>>> changes frequently. Being hosted on SVN is also a downside. >>>> >>>> I'd probably like something which automatically adds start & end dates >>>> as one creates data (or rather tags data, which is when a true historical >>>> element is created). They'd need to be set by the user for an editing >>>> session. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 23:12, Jeff Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all - >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking at getting some JOSM extension work done, talking with >>>>> some developers next week & could use your input. >>>>> >>>>> Here's what I have in mind so far, please let me know what else you'd >>>>> suggest: >>>>> >>>>> So far, suggestions include: >>>>> - Time-based filter / slider to make it easier to work on one point in >>>>> time >>>>> - Warnings for ways / relations missing key tags: start_date, >>>>> end_date, license, source, attribution, etc. >>>>> - Updated slippy map to point at OHM & not OSM >>>>> - Toggle to change between OSM and OHM API endpoint >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Jeff Meyer >>>>> 206-676-2347 >>>>> osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) >>>>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM >>>>> user page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> >>>>> t: @OpenHistMap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Historic mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Meyer >>> 206-676-2347 >>> osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) >>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user >>> page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> >>> t: @OpenHistMap >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jeff Meyer >> 206-676-2347 >> osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user >> page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> >> t: @OpenHistMap >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Historic mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >> > > > -- > Tod Robbins, MLIS > todrobbins.com > _______________________________________________ > Historic mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic > -- Jeff Meyer 206-676-2347 osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> t: @OpenHistMap
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