On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Udo Stenzel wrote:
Mikael Johansson wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Misha Aizatulin wrote:
Here is an argument against Reply-To munging. I'd say I agree
with it:
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
* It provides no benefit to the user of a reasonable mailer.
[...]
1) get multiple copies of mails concerning discussions I
participate in or
2) have to manually re-edit the header each and every time I want
to keep
a discussion on a mailing list, possibly with added trouble
finding the
right adress to send to
A reasonable mailer has functions "reply", "reply-to-all" and
"reply-to-list". I'm composing this mail using "reply-to-list",
have to
edit no headers, the reply goes to the list and nobody gets duplicate
copies.
FWIW, I'm using Apple's Mail.app, and it doesn't have a "reply-to-
list". In fact, I don't know of a mail client off the top of my head
that does (certainly neither of the two that I use on a regular
basis). I just use 'reply-to-all' which is what many people on the
haskell lists do (judging by the headers on email I receive).
However, I don't recall problems with multiple copies of emails. I
think (pure speculation) the haskell.org mail server is set up to
omit people from mail it sends if they appear in the To: or Cc: of
the original mail.
Finally, I agree that reply-to munging is a bad idea, but I don't
think appealing to a definition of 'reasonable mailer' that doesn't
match a large portion of mail clients currently in the wild is a good
way to argue the point.
* It removes important information, which can make it impossible to
get back to the message sender.
This is the most important bit, actually. Anyone who wants to post a
single question to haskell or haskell-cafe has to be subscribed, or
the
reply may go to the list, no matter what he put into the reply-to
header. Is it a good thing to shut out casual users?
I view pine as something that should be classified as
reasonable
Pein (sic!) is not reasonable. If you love it so much, please whip
out
the source code, implement a "reply-to-list" function and get at least
one mailer removed from a silly debate.
I disagree.
I don't agree.
I don't agree.
I don't agree.
I don't agree.
Very convincing. Keep up the good work.
Udo.
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