Sohil,
I'm in finals week of my Masters program, but will be relatively free in
one week. I will build a virtual machine in VirtualBox based on
Ubuntu14 and pybombs. I'll test it it with my HackRF to see if it
works, then try to find a way to put it on Git, dropbox or something
similar.
I have not used VMware in at least 10 years, is there a free way to
make/play virtual machines?
Rich
On 9/4/2014 5:35 AM, Sohil Shah wrote:
Background:
I received my HackRF this Tuesday and tried running it under Pentoo,
Kali and Windows. It did not work on either. I installed the latest
Zadiag drivers on Windows and got the latest version of SDR#. As far
as Kali and Pentoo go I followed the guide online except that I was
running it from within a VM using VmWare. I have not dared to update
my firmware. I will wait till Zero releases the Pentoo build with all
the necessary tools and Mike posts his lesson on firmware flashing.
My question today is has anyone tried using the HackRF in a
Virtualized environment [Windows7>VmWare_WorkStation10>Pentoo/Kali/Ubuntu]
I am aware of there being limits over USB in a virtualized
environment, but for a lot of reasons I would like to use the HackRF
on my Windows box using VmWare Workstation 10 as the virtualized
environment on either Kali/Ubuntu or Pentoo (Zero's latest build when
its released).
I can understand that there may be a lot of people who will say, use
it on bare metal and that is fine, but I really want to see if it is
possible to use the HackRF in a virtualized environment. I have used
the RTLSDR in a virtualized environment for over a year now and it
seems to be doing just fine with a lot of applications. I am not sure
what the limitations of using the HackRF in a virtualized environment
are. I do not intend to use it at its maximum sample rate as I am sure
a lot of applications don't require that high a samp_rate, E.G
everything running on the RTLSDR is running at under 3.2MSPS.
My crude understanding is that more the MSPS more the I/O demand or
bandwidth required on the USB bus and the driver that shuttles the
samples between Windows through VMware to the Virtual Machine. I don't
know what the max_limit for such a setup is in terms of MSPS but I'd
like to know if someone has been able to do a calculation of the
amount of lost USB packets when going from 0MSPS to 22MSPS in a
virtualized environment or if someone is willing to give me an idea as
to how one would go about doing that as I am not sure if there is any
existing way to calculate that. My goal is to figure out an ideal MSPS
at which the HackRF is ideally useable in a Virtaul Machine running on
Windows7 inside VmWare Workstation 10. As far as hardware goes I have
the Lenovo ThinkPad T430 (Intel Chipset) which based on what I have
read is one of the good performers on the hardware side, hence any
losses or limitations would really be a software/virtualization issue
as opposed to a hardware issue.
If someone still can't wrap their head around the fact that why I
would want to use Virtualization let me explain.
1) 1) I only have one computer (laptop).
2) 2) I really need to have windows installed on it and can't have
dual boot on it with any Linux flavor.
3) 3) This limits me to using a live CD/USB
4) 4) I would like to watch Mike's videos and refer to online
guides while doing the exercises in GRC.
5) 5) All Live CD's may not have all the required tools, codecs
etc. to watch video files and or video content online. (I know this is
a lame argument but there are certain limitations and not everything
will run straight out of the box on all platforms, plus it adds noise
on the link in the next point)
6) 6) Coming to the most important point. I want to simulate an
environment where I have one host (think drone or remote computer) to
which the HackRF is physically connected and another host that is
actually commanding and getting responses from the first host. All
Signal processing etc. is happening on the drone/remote machine. Only
basic periodic updates (command and control) are being transmitted
between the two hosts. To simulate this I need to use virtualization
on my laptop.
If you had the patience to get so far in my post, I thank you. I would
really appreciate if someone can shed some light on running the HackRF
in a virtualized environment, maybe Mike can do a follow up to the
Mysteries Video to see what kind of anomalies we see while using the
HackRF in a virtual environment as opposed to running on bare metal. I
am sure others may also have specific needs to run the HackRF in a
virtualized environment. If not for anything else just to be able to
say it's not impossible is the simple motivation for my quest.
Thank you for your time.
--
Sohil Shah.
Nothing is Impossible, Never Undermine the Potential of the Human
Spirit = My Life's Motto!!
Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish - Steve Jobs
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