Hello! I am now officially curious. 😉 Any way that I can see this too?
Cheers, Danielle > From: exst...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:25:41 -0500 > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dating an image > > Interesting piece! It's both right up my alley, and out of my area of > expertise. > > I've spent a couple of decades collecting images of ads from about > 1860-1970, so in that sense it's definitely my thing. I LOVE old > advertising/marketing/packaging. Frustratingly, though, just knowing when > the image on the glass is from won't really date the piece with certainty. > > This looks like the glass bottle packaging of some commercial product (I'm > not familiar with it, but I'm checking my files and will keep checking)--in > other words, not necessarily directly related to or produced by the > military, although probably marketed to it judging by the clothing, which > reminds me of WW1 women's volunteer or reserve uniforms. The image and > font used is most similar to the styles used starting around 1910, but > still used into the 1930s (and seen to some degree even later). > > However, the people who made logos and packaging and so forth back then > made use of clip art just as we do today; the same basic image (sometimes > with minor changes or updates) might be used and re-used in designs > throughout several years, and companies might go years or decades without > updating the design on their packaging. So, this bottle may have been > designed in the 1910s, but produced and purchased a decade or more later. > It's likeliest that you'd see this in the wartime 1910s (especially > considering the hairstyle; it could be a bob, but is more likely to be a > late 1910s non-bobbed-but-pulled-back-low female style), but it wouldn't > completely shock me if something like this popped up as late as the 1940s. > It'd be unusual, but not impossible. > > The area in which I have zero expertise, beyond a few minutes of searching > on Google, is one that might help you narrow it down better than the actual > image: the fact that the image is printed (or painted) in color on glass. > (Glass bottle packaging is a whole nother area of research than my own > paper-based ad research; there's lots of people who specialize in and > collect that.) This is an application of technology that might not have > become common as early as the 1910s; it's also possible that an expert on > the subject could tell what technique was used to get that image on the > glass, and come up with a date based on that. > > Long story short, gun to my head I'd say late 1910s, but only if I had to > give my last best guess, and the researchers would be well-served by > getting input from people who know about the history of glass packaging. > > Hope this helps, and I'm very interested in any conclusions the people > working on this eventually reach about the dating of the site! > -E House > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Cin <cinbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Did you send a picture? If so, it probably wont come thru on this list. > > You'll need to provide a link if you want people to see anything. > > > > --cin > > Cynthia Barnes > > cinbar...@gmail.com > > > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Hansen, Lia <lia.han...@vanguard.edu> > > wrote: > > > > > The piece was found in a midden on a military base in Southern California > > > and is from the 20th century. We're trying to narrow down the decade. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > _______________________________________________ > > > h-costume mailing list > > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
