About 2 years ago for Costume College I made the Artistic Reform Dress from the 
La Mode Bagatelle pattern bought from Ravenrook.  I loved it and the 
instructions were clear and it gave two versions that could be made.

Donna Scarfe


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   1. Re: Boning and corsets for musicians (Kathleen Norvell)
   2. Re: Boning and corsets for musicians (Marjorie wilser)
   3. Re: Boning and corsets for musicians (Kathleen Norvell)
   4. Re: Boning and corsets for musicians (Beteena Paradise)
   5. Re: Boning and corsets for musicians (Sharon Nevin)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kathleen Norvell <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
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This was the pattern I was thinking of when I mentioned Aesthetic Dress -- 
Artistic Reform is another term for it. I did not know if the pattern was still 
available. It's a beautiful, authentic Victorian gown. 

Kathleen


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Unboned corsets work fabulously.  I use them for riding.  Also, you might
ant to look into this:
ttp://www.amazondrygoods.com/products/la-mode-bagatelle-victorian-artistic-reform-tea-gowns.html
pparently there was a movement during this time to wear unrestricted
lothing.  As I recall, the pattern information itself states that these
ere designed not as absolutely historically accurate.  I will look at mine
ater today and refresh my memory.  They are such beautiful "dresses"
Sg  (on the other side of Phoenix, Buckwheat)

n Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. <
[email protected]> wrote:
> After a couple of surgeries I now wear a compression camisole most of the
 time, except to exercise. They really are comfortable if done right.

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 Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:11 PM
 To: Historical Costume
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

 I'm thinking maybe not tie the corsets so snugly.  They are actually very
 comfortable to wear.  Or look into corded stays rather than boned stays.


 Cactus
 Apache Junction, AZ


 From: Kathleen Norvell <[email protected]>
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 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians



 Aylwen,
 For Victorian, maybe the musicians could adopt "Aesthetic" dress, which
 requires no corsets.

 Just a thought.

 Kathleen


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden <[email protected]>
 To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
 Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:57 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians


 I'm thinking about Victorian fashion here. Are there any pictures of women
 itting down playing music? I've seen women corsetted when standing up
 laying the violin, but how did they manage playing the piano? Or are my
 usicians complaining too much?
 'm right at the beginning in my research so far.
 any thanks,
 ylwen

 n 21 October 2013 15:48, Elizabeth Jones <[email protected]
 >wrote:
 > Hi Aylwen,
 What have you tried so far? If we know what's already been tried there
 won't need to be any re-inventing of the wheel. For anything pre-1600
 you are fairly safe to skip boning for anyone who isn't extremely high
 fashion (and musicians paid to perform for a ball definitely weren't
 high fashion)
 Elizabeth

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 > Dear Friends
 > Our dance group prides itself on wearing historically correct gowns and
 > undergarments for our dance performances, but it is not comfortable for
 our
 > pianist and other musicians. I am exploring ways I can bone the bodices
 of
 > the gowns and still give sitting-down musicians breathing space - but
 still
 > have the garments look close-to-accurate. Can anyone offer me any advice?
 > We costume from 1450 through to 1900 - all styles along the way.
 > Many thanks,
 > Aylwen
 >
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:02:39 -0700
From: Marjorie wilser <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
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Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the company (not 
Amazon DG, the pattern produceer)?

==Marjorie (swooning from sticker shock)

Sent from my amazing iPad

On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kathleen Norvell <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> This was the pattern I was thinking of when I mentioned Aesthetic Dress -- 
Artistic Reform is another term for it. I did not know if the pattern was still 
available. It's a beautiful, authentic Victorian gown. 
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wicked Frau <[email protected]>
> To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:08 am
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
> 
> 
> Unboned corsets work fabulously.  I use them for riding.  Also, you might
> want to look into this:
> http://www.amazondrygoods.com/products/la-mode-bagatelle-victorian-artistic-reform-tea-gowns.html



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 22:24:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kathleen Norvell <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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La Mode Bagatelle went out of business a couple of years ago and I don't know 
who bought their patterns. I have the Regency Wardrobe pattern package, which 
I've used several times and like. The instructions are pretty good -- better 
than most of its ilk. It was worth the price. I haven't used this one, but I 
have a friend who did and I think she was happy with it.

Kathleen

-----Original Message-----
From: Marjorie wilser <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians



Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the company (not 
mazon DG, the pattern produceer)?
==Marjorie (swooning from sticker shock)
ent from my amazing iPad
On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kathleen Norvell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
 This was the pattern I was thinking of when I mentioned Aesthetic Dress -- 
rtistic Reform is another term for it. I did not know if the pattern was still 
vailable. It's a beautiful, authentic Victorian gown. 
 
 Kathleen
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Wicked Frau <[email protected]>
 To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
 Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:08 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
 
 
 Unboned corsets work fabulously.  I use them for riding.  Also, you might
 want to look into this:
 
http://www.amazondrygoods.com/products/la-mode-bagatelle-victorian-artistic-reform-tea-gowns.html
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Beteena Paradise <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
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Marjorie said: "Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the 
company (not Amazon DG, the pattern produceer)?"

I have their regency pattern which was a similar price as I recall. That one is 
a fantastic pattern and worth the price because it contains patterns for a 
bunch 
of different garments with different options. I love it. I haven't used their 
artistic reform pattern, but if it is like the regency one, it will be a good 
investment.

Teena


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:26:50 +0100
From: Sharon Nevin <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I think that it may be Ravenrook who prints the patterns now.
http://www.ravenrook.com/

Sharon

On 25/10/13 3:24 AM, Kathleen Norvell wrote:
> La Mode Bagatelle went out of business a couple of years ago and I don't know 
who bought their patterns. I have the Regency Wardrobe pattern package, which 
I've used several times and like. The instructions are pretty good -- better 
than most of its ilk. It was worth the price. I haven't used this one, but I 
have a friend who did and I think she was happy with it.
>
> Kathleen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marjorie wilser<[email protected]>
> To: Historical Costume<[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
>
>
>
> Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the company (not
> mazon DG, the pattern produceer)?
> ==Marjorie (swooning from sticker shock)
> ent from my amazing iPad
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kathleen Norvell<[email protected]>  wrote:
>   This was the pattern I was thinking of when I mentioned Aesthetic Dress --
> rtistic Reform is another term for it. I did not know if the pattern was still
> vailable. It's a beautiful, authentic Victorian gown.
>
>   Kathleen
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Wicked Frau<[email protected]>
>   To: Historical Costume<[email protected]>
>   Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:08 am
>   Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
>
>
>   Unboned corsets work fabulously.  I use them for riding.  Also, you might
>   want to look into this:
>   
> http://www.amazondrygoods.com/products/la-mode-bagatelle-victorian-artistic-reform-tea-gowns.html
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