Italian ten was also somewhat trgiomal. Different city states with different laws , made things like colorsand fabric weaves , ok in one area for noble women and banned in another. you might want to get youth hand on a copy of medievalmiscellanea" s pattern no 41 by coryn weigl ( i believe available at medeivalmisc.otg ) It has a full newsprint page inside with just such details from contemporary sources like(ok mostly) portraits of the upprt class with dates and very importantly geographic 2 things i trmrmbrt from that pattern, btw there is a mens corresponding , first, younwillkeep things looking accurate by avoiding faceted jewel and using only cebochon. Second pearls EVERYWHERE especially in hair. Oh. More thing. Tion sleeves were often like jewelry. A blue velvet dress might be worn with red jeweled sleeves in one painting and show up withgold brocaded and pearls sleeve in another. Hope this helps -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:34:29 am To: "Historical Costume" <h-cost...@indra.com> From: "Patricia Dunham" <chim...@ravensgard.org> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Renaissance dance costumes
Hi Aylwen, Is there some reason you preferred the first pattern? As someone said, it doesn't look much like -my- idea of Italian Renn. looks almost German to me, but my DH says it just looks real middle class (on the right) and lower class (the serving woman on the left). The overgown and sectional sleeve elements are what look "upper class" to most folks, I think. scale will be important in the stage decor parts... things DO need to be larger scale to register, but not so much bigger that they look chees-y. on the problem of short doublets & tights... 1) proper short-short doublets would probably NOT be fast or easy to make. 2) take a look at the guy on the left here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Botticelli_magi_detail.jpg that red tabard-y/houpeland-y thing would be MUCH easier to do, the blue-gray sleeves would be much easier to do and tie on to some kind of simple base under the red, and, IMPORTANT, look how "long" the red thing is! covers delicate bits!!! 3) take a look at florentin _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
