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Hi Authors,

Not sure if I'm splitting hairs here or providing useful feedback, so please do 
with his feedback what you will:

* I think CE and PE acronyms are a bit unclear. In my opinion CE is "Customer 
Edge" and PE is "Provider Edge" (both without the "Router" part). A lot of 
people do use PE to mean an edge router, but I see that as more of a "slang" 
use than as formal language use. This becomes clearer when you add in the 
acronym CPE, meaning Customer Premises Equipment. To explain via a typical real 
life scenario:

The edge of my provider network is not a router, it's a switch. I aggregate 
many connections on a switch, and have a trunk port up to my router, because 
switch ports are cheaper than lines cards (this is a common practice). So the 
port on the edge switch, is the Provider Edge.

Next comes a last mile connection to my customer. There may an NTE (Network 
Terminating Equipment) which terminates the last mile connection at the 
customer's premises. Attached to the NTE is the "WAN" side of a CPE device. The 
"LAN" side of that device is the Customer Edge.

(If you think this model makes sense, this requires the introduction of NTE, 
CPE, WAN, and LAN into the document as well, sorry!).

* There are some acronyms which are explained in the subsections of section 4, 
which are not mentioned in Section 3 (AS, BFD, EIGRP, EGP, RIP, etc.). But some 
of the acronyms are in Section 3 and explained in say 4.1 (such as ASN, RIR, 
etc). So it's not clear why  only some acronyms are listed in Section 3 and not 
all. Maybe I just missed and need to re-read.


Cheers,
James.


On Friday, April 3rd, 2026 at 16:13, [email protected] 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-grow-routing-ops-terms-02.txt is now available. It
> is a work item of the Global Routing Operations (GROW) WG of the IETF.
> 
>    Title:   Currently Used Terminology in Global Routing Operations
>    Authors: Tobias Fiebig
>             Wolfgang Tremmel
>    Name:    draft-ietf-grow-routing-ops-terms-02.txt
>    Pages:   15
>    Dates:   2026-04-03
> 
> Abstract:
> 
>    Operating the global routing ecosystem entails a divers set of
>    interacting components, while operational practice evolved over time.
>    In that time, terms emerged, disappeared, and sometimes changed their
>    meaning.
> 
>    To aid operators and implementers in reading contemporary drafts,
>    this document provides an overview of terms and abbreviations used in
>    the global routing operations community.  The document explicitly
>    does not serve as an authoritative source of correct terminology, but
>    instead strives to provide an overview of practice.
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-routing-ops-terms/
> 
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-grow-routing-ops-terms-02.html
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-grow-routing-ops-terms-02
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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