Hi Branden, G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 05:10:01PM -0500: > At 2022-07-31T20:02:52+0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> G. Branden Robinson wrote on Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:05:55AM -0500:
>>> I added fallbacks in tty.char for \[fm] and \[sd] (both CSTR #54 >>> glyphs) in May 2021. I seem to remember that Ingo followed suit >>> at least for the latter in mdoc. >> mandoc renders as follows: >> >> input: \(fm >> -T ascii: U+0027 APOSTROPHE-QUOTE >> -T utf8: U+2032 PRIME >> >> input: \(sd >> -T ascii: U+0022 QUOTATION MARK >> -T utf8: U+2033 DOUBLE PRIME >> >> The latest related commits are: >> >> mandoc/chars.c revision 1.51 >> date: 2022/06/26 20:30:00; author: schwarze; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2; >> In groff commit 78e66624 on May 7 20:15:33 2021 +1000, >> G. Branden Robinson changed the -T ascii rendering >> of \(sd, the "second" symbol, U+2033 DOUBLE PRIME, from '' to ". >> Follow suit in mandoc. >> >> mandoc/chars.in revision 1.24 >> date: 2014/10/29 03:34:26; author: schwarze; state: Exp; lines: +20 -20; >> Some fine tuning of console rendering of named special characters. >> Correct ASCII rendering: \(lb \(<> \(sd # <=== look here ===< >> Make ASCII rendering agree with groff, using backspace overstrike: >> \(da \(ua \(dA \(uA \(fa \(c* \(c+ \(ib \(ip \(/_ \(pp \(is \(dd \(dg >> >> Essentially, rev. 1.24 changed " to '' to agree with groff. > In 2014, I point out, seeking furiously to escape blame for churn... :-) >> That was reverted by Branden in 2021 and i followed again, >> even though with a significant delay caused by lazyness on my part. >> >> The mandoc ASCII rendering of \(fm has been stable since it was >> first supported in 2009. > There's just no way rendering \(sd the same as \(fm was right. Neither groff nor mandoc ever did such a thing, and i did not intend to imply such a claim. AFAIK, mandoc and groff -T ascii renderung of \(fm always was *single* U+0027 APOSTROPHE-QUOTE = ' -T ascii renderung of \(sd was: mandoc 2009-2014: U+0022 QUOTATION MARK = " mandoc 2014-2022: *double* U+0027 APOSTROPHE-QUOTE = '' groff until 2021: *double* U+0027 APOSTROPHE-QUOTE = '' groff since 2021: U+0022 QUOTATION MARK = " mandoc since 2002: U+0022 QUOTATION MARK = " again > In the U.S., with our antiquated system of weights and measurements, > it is still common to represent measurements like overpass clearances > on freeways with signs saying things like > > 11'8" > > ...a length I do not choose at random, but in homage to a source of > immense, dark entertainment, as "American" as it gets. > > http://11foot8.com/ Maybe if the signs said: 11"+8" (= 19" = 48cm) truck drivers would be more wary and less often try to sneak past below during some instant when the bridge is not looking. ;) > Indeed I know that very location, having lived in Durham, NC for > about a year and a half once. Heh. I hope that bridge didn't give you a haircut, then. > And of course these symbols are still used globally in the > degrees-minutes-seconds representation of angle measures. Yours, Ingo
