On 01/11/2021 14:01, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> At 2021-10-24T18:53:52-0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 11:58:55AM +1100, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
>>> Since I am now accused four times over of rewriting history, and
>>> moreover of violating an "absolute taboo", I must insist upon the
>>> presentation of particulars.
>>
>> Hi, I'm the BitKeeper guy, nobody knows who I am but BitKeeper was
>> the first distributed source management system, hg, git, etc are
>> copies, I'm the guy that figured this model out.
>
> Fear not! I've known your name and (some of) your work for many years.
>
>> If you did not rewrite history, which means you changed things so
>> that a pull won't work or will create a massive merge mess, then
>> you are fine.
>
> As far as _I_ can tell, neither of these has taken place.
Seriously? You absolutely _did_ rewrite history ... not just once, but
twice! You deleted an _entire branch_ of published development history,
then after my subsequent push had reinstated it, you deleted it once
again! If that isn't rewriting history, then I'd like to know what you
would call it.
Now, I'm sure you made this mistake in ignorance, rather than with any
malicious intent, but it was a history rewriting mistake nonetheless.
Two things which you should never do, after anything has been pushed to
a public repository: you should not rebase any of it; neither should you
delete any of it.
>> The taboo is once you have some history, don't change that because
>> all of the clones of your public repository depend on that history.
>
> Agreed, and this is consistent with everything I've learned about
> distributed revision control.
Yet you ignored what you suggest you have learned; you _did_ change some
of that (published) history, by deleting an entire branch of it.
>> I'd be happy to get on the phone with you if I could help. While
>> I may be an SCM guy, I've been a groff fan for decades. Love to
>> help.
>
> I appreciate the offer. I let this issue lie for a few days so Keith
> could lay out the particulars of my cardinal sin, but none have proven
> forthcoming.
Frankly, I thought you might have been smart enough to work it out for
yourself.
> Without an accurate description of damage done (if any) to the
> repository, there is no way anyone can repair it. And if there is none,
> then charges of rewriting history are overblown, unwarranted, and
> unfriendly.
Claims that you have not done what you so clearly have, are frankly
disingenuous. The damage done may not be critical, insofar as we may be
able to live without that deleted branch, but a possibility remains,
that it could find its own way back at some future date; indeed, I still
have a local clone, in which that history remains ... 54 commits, per
attached deleted-history.log, (produced by 'hg outgoing' from that ...
now outdated ... clone).
comparing with git+ssh://keithmarsh...@git.savannah.gnu.org/srv/git/groff.git
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user: Bertrand Garrigues <bertrand.garrig...@laposte.net>
date: Sat Apr 03 01:35:46 2021 +0200
summary: Add Deri James'extension to gropdf to draw boxes and sboxes macros.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 04 19:19:24 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Remove stray word from recast.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 04 19:20:46 2021 +1000
summary: doc/ms.ms: Fix style nits.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 04 20:43:23 2021 +1000
summary: [docs]: Improve hyphenation discussion.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Apr 05 11:12:26 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Remove unnecessary command.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 06 14:50:08 2021 +1000
summary: [docs]: Revise hyphenation discussion.
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user: Dave Kemper <saint.s...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 06 10:48:33 2021 +0000
summary: [nroff]: Support and document -k and -K options.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 07 17:07:05 2021 +1000
summary: ChangeLog: Log Dave's fix for Savannah #60349.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 07 17:58:07 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix content and style nits.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 09:37:37 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix content nits.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 10:17:34 2021 +1000
summary: [ms]: Update footnote documentation.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 12:14:27 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi (I/O): Shift sentence.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 12:19:11 2021 +1000
summary: groff(7): Fix style nits.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 12:23:43 2021 +1000
summary: groff_diff(7): Resync mso with our Texinfo manual.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 13:09:31 2021 +1000
summary: Implement new .soquiet and .msoquiet requests.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 18:12:31 2021 +1000
summary: ChangeLog: Fix misleading statement.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 09:23:36 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi (I/O): Tweak content.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 09 17:20:23 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix style nit.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 08:45:37 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix "current environment" nit.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 09:13:45 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Drop example.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 09:45:35 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix error in .rnn description.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 10:40:44 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi (Manipulating Hyphenation): Tweak.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Apr 12 00:06:02 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Make small clarifications.
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user: Dave Kemper <saint.s...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 11 10:48:45 2021 +0000
summary: groff(7): Drop discussion of Y2K issues.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Apr 12 19:12:11 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi (Built-in registers): Revise.
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user: Dave Kemper <saint.s...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Apr 12 03:57:12 2021 +0000
summary: doc/meref.me: Correct various small issues.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 08:13:00 2021 +1000
summary: groff_diff(7): Protect "U.S." from bad spacing.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 08:14:42 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi (Manipulating Hyphenation): Tweak.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 19:12:01 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix more "current environment"s.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 19:12:29 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Fix style nit.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 19:14:31 2021 +1000
summary: groff(7), groff_diff(7): Resync with Texinfo.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Jan 04 16:59:03 2021 +1100
summary: [tmac]: Rename *.us to *.en.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Jan 04 17:10:20 2021 +1100
summary: [troffrc]: Change hyphenation language us to en.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Jan 04 17:44:57 2021 +1100
summary: tmac/en.tmac: Add English localization file.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Mon Jan 04 17:53:05 2021 +1100
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Jan 15 03:27:15 2021 +1100
summary: tmac/en.tmac: Set hyphenation mode to 4.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Jan 15 03:38:11 2021 +1100
summary: [docs]: Update hyphenation and localization stuff.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 13 15:35:51 2021 +1000
summary: Test localization refactor.
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date: Tue Apr 13 18:25:55 2021 +1000
summary: tmac/LOCALIZATION: Rewrite.
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date: Tue Apr 13 18:26:27 2021 +1000
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Thu Apr 15 19:46:36 2021 +1000
summary: {ChangeLog, NEWS}: Report localization change.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 16 22:47:31 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Tweak style.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 16 12:25:41 2021 +1000
summary: groff_char(7): Add tab to fundamental charset.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sat Apr 17 11:38:00 2021 +1000
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sat Apr 17 11:43:36 2021 +1000
summary: tmac/an-old.tmac (SS): Add devtags support.
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user: Dave Kemper <saint.s...@gmail.com>
date: Fri Apr 16 11:50:37 2021 +0000
summary: doc/me{intro,ref}.me: Use "point size" correctly.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sat Apr 17 21:38:00 2021 +1000
summary: doc/groff.texi: Drop Texinfo pre-5.0 workarounds.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 18 15:26:29 2021 +1000
summary: BRANCH-TODO: Add "acceptance criteria".
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Sun Apr 18 15:40:18 2021 +1000
summary: Fix building with "make distcheck".
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Tue Apr 20 01:56:14 2021 +1000
summary: src/roff/troff/input.cpp: Use Boolean literals.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 21 04:28:52 2021 +1000
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 21 04:38:27 2021 +1000
summary: BRANCH-TODO: Add item.
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user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 21 04:53:40 2021 +1000
summary: contrib/sboxes/msboxes.ms: Fix non-body font.
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tag: default/dev-gropdf-boxes
user: G. Branden Robinson <g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>
date: Wed Apr 21 04:59:39 2021 +1000
summary: contrib/sboxes/msboxes.ms: Use BI in title.
