> ??? Have you actually used stand-alone `info` recently? In its > standard configuration, you only need the arrow keys together with the > enter key to navigate.
That's not what I'm talking about. In Emacs, I'm used to smashing `c-h o` to bring up the documentation for the symbol at point. In info(1), I've no idea where or what to even begin searching for to find a symbol's documentation. info(1) without Emacs feels like a fish out of the water. To Texinfo's credit, it *is* decent at producing well-structured and neatly typeset manuals (going by my copy of *Programming in Emacs Lisp*, which was generated from Texinfo). Its output is, IMHO, best when it's confined to one long page (for easier searching); I have the HTML versions of GNU manuals bookmarked for that reason. However, none of the above merits can't already be achieved with a well-written macro package in Troff, either. On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 20:38, Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> wrote: > > >> The info stuff alienates anyone who is not an emacs fan > > > > The standalone info(1) program, though? Please. I'm not going to > > learn a second set of keybindings just to navigate online help. > > ??? Have you actually used stand-alone `info` recently? In its > standard configuration, you only need the arrow keys together with the > enter key to navigate. The tab key also works quite similar to most > GUI applications to move from one field to the next. As with `less`, > the space key moves one page down, the backspace key one page up. You > press 's' to do a search. For compatibility with `less`, you can even > press the '/' key to start a search. > > >> The info stuff alienates anyone who is not an emacs fan. > > This might have been true ten years ago, but it definitely is no > longer today. Please, I ask everyone to do a fact check before > stating things that are simply not true. > > I won't say more on this topic. We are on a groff list. > > > Werner >
