Am 05.11.2017 03:09 schrieb "G. Branden Robinson"
<g.branden.robin...@gmail.com>:
>
> At 2017-11-05T00:40:48+0100, Bertrand Garrigues wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 2. November 2017, 08:09:48 CET schrieb Werner LEMBERG:
> > >> If my memory serves me well, the `u' stands for `uncompressed', i.e.,
> > >> without comments and indentation removed. Bertrand removed the
> > >> functionality to install stripped tmac files, IIRC — computers are
> > >> much faster today, so this is (probably?) no longer needed.
> >
> > Correct, -u is for 'unstripped'. Before the automake migration the the
> > unstripped files were saved in the source tree without any extension,
> > and the build system would first generate a stripped file in the build
> > directory with a -s suffix and then install the file without this
> > suffix. I've simplified the build process by storing the unstripped
> > file in the source tree with a -u suffix and generating the stripped
> > version without suffix in the build directory. The final result is
> > unchanged though.
>
> I move that we stop stripping the files. Stripping them is saving us
> only a few hundred kB out of 25 megs.
>
> That's out of a full installation; in Debian, the "core" macro packages
> are in groff-base, and only doc{,-old}.tmac are shipped there. So for
> at least some distributors, people only get the bulk of these stripped
> macro packages when they're asking their packaging manager for something
> non-minimal anyway.
>
> As for groff-base and whatever its counterparts may be in other distros,
> we should weigh the ~75kB cost of leaving it unstripped versus the
> benefit of making the package more user-readable for the inspection of
> prospective man page writers who'd like to write in mdoc instead of man,
> so that they can learn and become more comfortable with it. (This is me
> shamelessly pandering to Ingo. :P )
>
> The numbers below are in bytes.
>
> $ for F in $(find -name "*.tmac-u"); do wc -c "$F" "${F%-u}"; done | awk
> '!/total/ {printf "%6d %s\n", $1, $2}'
> 9088 ./contrib/hdtbl/hdmisc.tmac-u
> 3445 ./contrib/hdtbl/hdmisc.tmac
> 26802 ./contrib/hdtbl/hdtbl.tmac-u
> 17350 ./contrib/hdtbl/hdtbl.tmac
> 689635 ./contrib/mom/om.tmac-u
> 420776 ./contrib/mom/om.tmac
> 34265 ./tmac/e.tmac-u
> 22078 ./tmac/e.tmac
> 150717 ./tmac/doc.tmac-u
> 74050 ./tmac/doc.tmac
> 36308 ./tmac/doc-old.tmac-u
> 36446 ./tmac/doc-old.tmac
>
> $ du -bs ~/local-groff
> 25532687 /home/branden/local-groff
>
> --
> Regards,
> Branden
Reducing the size is not all what matters. Nobody so far has measured macro
loading time.
Heinz
