Considering all the discussion my simple (but unfortunately not explained) query has caused, I think a note of introduction is in order. My name is David, usually called Sinuhe in GNU Project circles. I have been your (the GNU Project's) chief webmaster since 2003, but have turned the reigns over to another so I can change my focus to the groff project. I've been in the computer industry for a long time considering my young age. My use of GNU and OpenBSD come from my personal conversations with Richard Stallman and Theo de Raadt, both of which have been amazingly cordial and insightful.
I have been using GNU since 1996, and OpenBSD since 2000, so to the latter I am relatively new. My specialities are in XML, and documentation markup, if my webmaster position didn't make that obvious. I know some scheme, C, and C++, but not so much as to consider myself anything but a novice. I have just been made a developer of the groff project to assist with your documentation, and with the texinfo manual, (and perhaps your website?). Specifically regarding OpenBSD, and the technical aspects of installing texinfo and groff. First of all, I would not be so careless as to install anything to the base system without care, and evaluation before hand. If the resident OpenBSD officiando wishes to debate the technical aspects of my configuration off list, I would be glad to engage him, though I personally am confident in my own reasonings. However, though I have come to expect arrogance and presumption on the OpenBSD list (not suggesting such from Zvezdan: he and I have no quarrel), I also find it to be anti-social, and simply emotionally unbridled (if not hypocritical!). The OpenBSD mailing list guidelines have never suggested such behaviour, nor have I ever experienced such from Theo, (though unfortunately, I will admit I have been known to dish some of it out on the www-discuss mailing list during times of impatience). Thank you for all of your patience, technical responses, and warm welcome! Second (for those counting), I would never have installed to a mission critical system the way I did. I needed the new version of texinfo and groff for the sake of development, and I was simply curious as to how OpenBSD would handle it. Yes, I could have jumped through the hoops to make a package for both, since one does not currently exist, but I purposely wanted to see the havic it would cause, and how groff handled under OpenBSD, considering its particular configurations, and that was the one problem (the escape sequences with the manual) that I didn't seem able to configure with groff at compile time, (though I wouldn't be surprised that I overlooked something). My interest in groff comes from my interest in traditional documentation systems. My interest in OpenBSD comes from the fact that it *works* and my interest in GNU is philosophical. Finally, to answer some of the basic questions on the list about me. I'm not new to mailing lists, but have written some docs on netiquette and (about) the relevant rfcs over the years. I'm a native speaker of English, though I suspect only a couple of generations ago I would have been a native Welsh speaker (if my name didn't give that away). I'm not trained in CS, but have found my way to computers through my use of them. My university specialities are actually in philosophy and literature, with a specialized interest in linguistic etymology, (especially with English, German, and somewhat with Welsh). However, I've spent my years employed in the computer industry. Regarding the groff documentation, I would like to spend some time getting to know of all you, getting a feel for this list and this project, before diving into working on improving our documentation. Your suggestions--warm or coldly technical, scathingly critical or gently suggestive--are welcome and needed so that I can serve you best. -- D. E. Evans (aka Sinuhe) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Groff mailing list Groff@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/groff