Lukas, Tim, +1 on your explanation of this problem; I'd guessed that's the case but was still curious. I saw a lot of this as I moved archived email from gmail to my own mailservera couple of months ago.
And many, many thanks for everyone's efforts on the project. I really appreciate the work that goes on towards perfecting the application. Perhaps it won't reach perfection, but it's pretty damned good! This did raise the broader question that I have, which is that from my perspective things have been rather quiet, and I'm curious about the general thrust of what is happening with GPGTools. For example, as far as my inbox is concerned, there hasn't been anything on the gogtools-announce list since November. I _had_ missed the URL for the "appcast" that I presume is actually an RSS feed (unless there's a tool that will automatically consume this data and notify me of updates). I have miscellaneous very minor issues that on some level I suspect are related to having a non-updated development/nightly version installed some time back; but at any rate I try very hard to not create noise by asking questions about topics that I really could have researched myself; this is perhaps an example of that class except that I really don't know where things are going nor how to keep up to date. And I certainly understand and agree with the idea of using a web-based tool like Tender, but I just feel a bit out of the loop at the moment. (And, speaking of loops, there's the presumably imminent arrival of Mountain Lion that will probably create some commotion - I'd hope to get a heads-up on that.) Again, none of this is in any way a criticism; if I was in a position to contribute financially as I have to previous efforts I would be doing so. But, as I said, it's been quiet, and perhaps I'm just not tuned in to the right place? Hearing about the latest news - that'd be really great for those of us not following the support site. I am following the RSS feed now, though. Many thanks! _KMP K. M. Peterson, Boston http://kmpeterson.com/resume 40 Stanton Road Contact information, calendar, Brookline, MA 02445-6839 LinkedIn, Twitter, IM, Skype: Phone: +1 617 731 6177 http://kmpeterson.com/contact On 17 Jul 2012, at 14:32 , Lukas Pitschl | Dressy Vagabonds wrote: > Hi Nicholas, Tim, > > as Tim already correctly mentioned we're slowly but surely moving all our > tool related questions > to support.gpgtools.org since it's way easier to maintain. > You're still able to start discussions via email and reply to them solely via > email. > One reason for this transition was, that almost no one posted on the mailing > list anymore. > We've already answered a huge bunch of questions on support.gpgtools.org > using the Tender > support forum and most of our users really like it. > > As to your question, is there any chance you've recently updated GPGMail or > GPGTools? > Also are you on Lion or Snow Leopard? > > The reason why you're asked for your passphrase is, that Mail.app on Lion > creates > small preview snippets which you'll see in the second column, and to correctly > create these for encrypted messages as well, the emails are decrypted. > It's a bit annoying since the creation of the preview snippets occurs in the > background. > For that reason, we've not too recently added a preference which allows to > disable the > creation of those snippets. > > In order to disable the snippets, please install the nightly version of > GPGMail from > http://nightly.gpgtools.org. > After that open the GPGMail Preferences in Mail.app and deselect the 'Create > preview snippets' > checkbox. > > If your problem still persists, we'll have to investigate further and it > would be great > if you could open a new discussion on support.gpgtools.org. > > @Tim > > You're absolutely correct, popping up a dialog box for a background task is > terrible, > but in GPGMail 2.0 which is a complete rewrite we've mostly adapted Apple's > S/MIME > implementation. > This also resulted in this behaviour to be adapted which is used to generate > the aforementioned > preview snippets. The decryption is only in cache and the decrypted message > snippet is not permanently > stored. > > With GPGMail 2.0 we've started to focus more than ever to make the tools > simpler and easier to use > and I think you'll like the direction we're heading to. > > Hope that helps. > > Best, > > Lukas > > Am 17.07.2012 um 18:56 schrieb Tim Bradshaw: > >> On 17 Jul 2012, at 15:28, Nicholas Cole wrote: >> >>> My best guess is that it might have been the Mail.app plugin, but I >>> hadn't received any gpg mails. Is there anything that might have >>> caused Mail.app to suddenly attempt to decode messages in saved >>> folders? Because of another bug, I had to delete Mail.app's cache of >>> my IMAP folders this afternoon, so I think those caches have been or >>> are being regenerated. Could that have caused the Mail.app plugin to >>> attempt to decode a message? >> >> [I'm pretty sure no one is still alive here: I think they all went to some >> web-based thing, as you do if you are supporting a tool for dealing with >> mail.] >> >> If you're using Lion then the answer is "Mail.app can do this, and it's >> probably related to indexing things, as you suggest". If I still cared then >> I'd point out that: >> - popping up a focus-stealing dialog box when you are not in the foreground >> is just terrible user-interface style (I know, this is not unique to this >> case); >> - so Mail.app needs to decrypt my mail for its own reasons - what possible >> good reason could it have to do this (for instance, is it indexing the mail? >> because there might just be some security issues about an application which >> thinks that is a good idea). >> >> But I think, sadly, this is all a lost cause. Note I'm not trying to be >> rude to the GPGMail people: I'm sure they're dealing with application >> frameworks designed by people who just don't care any more about users who >> have anything but the most trivial requirements, and it's really hard to get >> this stuff right. >> >> --tim >> >> >> -- >> Tim Bradshaw >> [email protected] / +44 798 098 1475 >> PGP: 53AA CFA7 553B C611 B984 C4F2 0F11 EA99 0B7A 5ED1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gpgtools-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> FAQ: http://www.gpgtools.org/faq.html >> Changes: http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/listinfo/gpgtools-users >> Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/options/gpgtools-users/[email protected]?unsub=Unsubscribe&unsubconfirm=1 >> >> This email sent to: [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > gpgtools-users mailing list > [email protected] > FAQ: http://www.gpgtools.org/faq.html > Changes: http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/listinfo/gpgtools-users > Unsubscribe: > http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/options/gpgtools-users/[email protected]?unsub=Unsubscribe&unsubconfirm=1 > > This email sent to: [email protected] _______________________________________________ gpgtools-users mailing list [email protected] FAQ: http://www.gpgtools.org/faq.html Changes: http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/listinfo/gpgtools-users Unsubscribe: http://lists.gpgtools.org/mailman/options/gpgtools-users/[email protected]?unsub=Unsubscribe&unsubconfirm=1 This email sent to: [email protected]
