The new Mail program in OS X Lion is amazingly adept at hiding these long tails, so they don't bother me one bit! :)
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > Get someone else to weigh in if they think it bothers them. It's a PITA to > change how my email works, but for me it is a lot harder to read threads > that people didn't include the message chain of at least what they are > responding to, because I use Listserve mode and live in email. > > I do this because the forum view is often delayed and threads mysteriously > end up in other groups for some unknown reason. > > If this is pissing off more than just you I'll consider finding a work > around. But I have been posting this way for over a year and you are the > first to mention it. > > Brandon Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: BlackWaterOpsDotCom > > BlackWater Ops > > Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cezary Wagner > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:20 AM > To: Google App Engine > Subject: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > > Brandom, please cut message tails since it not readable :) > > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/986e19c > d7366a655 > > Example: > > We aren't real bright here. We didn't do much with tasks until recently J We > knew we should but to make our code work on multiple platforms we had > avoided it. Now we are starting to branch our code so that functions detect > which platform they are on and to things better. So we will look in to > using your logic. > Brandon Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> > BlackWaterOpsDotCom > <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops > <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > Ouch. > By the way, a faster pattern looks like this: > while there's stuff to delete: > do a keys only query (using a cursor to continue) > insert one or more tasks to delete those keys > insert a task and break from the while to continue if there are still more > to delete (to prevent deadline errors) You can speed that up further by > sharding the key space in the keys only query, which will yield better > parallelism. > Robert > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 01:18, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The version I have goes like this. > Yourapp.appspot.com/psuedodroptable/Name > Then the code logic says > For all batches of maximum size > delete async > Next batch > We ran it the person hitting it's Chrome crashed an hour later > (unrelated) > they came back in the morning Got the "Chrome has crashed would you like to > restore?" "Yes why note" and they deleted all the data we had spent > 18 > hours putting in to the system. well not all the data, since we were still > loading it, so new data wasn't deleted cause it wasn't in the batch J > Brandon Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> > BlackWaterOpsDotCom > <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops > <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > WTF, a confirmation? Coward. > I'd also like to see a magic "reset" button, especially one that was fast > and didn't cost a fortune. Would sure be nice for testing purposes. > Robert > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 01:07, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yeah, we have a something, I don't like it. I need to password it, and ad a > confirmation, and a bunch of stuff. Plus, we have a use case where we > actually want a Flush every things NOW button. That the SQL version of our > code does really well. And we can't quite find an analog for in GQL Brandon > Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> > BlackWaterOpsDotCom > <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops > <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > I wrote a simple task-based script that can delete a few tens of millions of > entities within a few hours. So I'd suggest just writing something. > Robert > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 00:27, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It can take days. > Brandon Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> > BlackWaterOpsDotCom > <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops > <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timofey Koolin > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > You can delete all items of any kind from datastore admin. > 2012/2/2 Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> I want Drop Table. > Can I restore empty table? > Brandon Wirtz > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary > Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg > Work: 510-992-6548 > Toll Free: 866-400-4536 > IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) > Skype: drakegreene > YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> > BlackWaterOpsDotCom > <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops > <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Collins > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! > Namespace backups would be pure awesomeness. Or some way to automate the > backups. It seems you have to backup each entity manually at the moment? > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:35 AM, WGuerlich <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The backup feature is great! But having backups not only by entity kind but > also by namespace would be uber-awesome. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/yd8HVGZPREsJ. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > Blog: www.rekby.ru > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google- [email protected]. > To ... > > read more » > > image001.jpg > < 1K View Download > image002.jpg > < 1K View Download > > On Feb 2, 7:57 am, "Brandon Wirtz" <[email protected]> wrote: >> We aren't real bright here. We didn't do much with tasks until >> recently J We knew we should but to make our code work on multiple >> platforms we had avoided it. Now we are starting to branch our code so >> that functions detect which platform they are on and to things better. >> So we will look in to using your logic. >> >> Brandon Wirtz >> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary >> Description:http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg >> >> Work: 510-992-6548 >> Toll Free: 866-400-4536 >> IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) >> Skype: drakegreene >> YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> >> BlackWaterOpsDotCom >> >> <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops >> >> <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:41 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! >> >> Ouch. >> >> By the way, a faster pattern looks like this: >> >> while there's stuff to delete: >> do a keys only query (using a cursor to continue) >> insert one or more tasks to delete those keys >> insert a task and break from the while to continue if there are >> still more to delete (to prevent deadline errors) >> >> You can speed that up further by sharding the key space in the keys >> only query, which will yield better parallelism. >> >> Robert >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 01:18, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The version I have goes like this. >> >> Yourapp.appspot.com/psuedodroptable/Name >> >> Then the code logic says >> For all batches of maximum size >> delete async >> Next batch >> >> We ran it the person hitting it's Chrome crashed an hour later >> (unrelated) they came back in the morning Got the "Chrome has crashed >> would you like to restore?" "Yes why note" and they deleted all the >> data we had spent 18 hours putting in to the system. well not all the >> data, since we were still loading it, so new data wasn't deleted cause >> it wasn't in the batch J >> >> Brandon Wirtz >> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary >> Description:http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg >> >> Work: 510-992-6548 >> Toll Free: 866-400-4536 >> IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) >> Skype: drakegreene >> YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> >> BlackWaterOpsDotCom >> <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops >> >> <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:11 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! >> >> WTF, a confirmation? Coward. >> >> I'd also like to see a magic "reset" button, especially one that was >> fast and didn't cost a fortune. Would sure be nice for testing purposes. >> >> Robert >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 01:07, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yeah, we have a something, I don't like it. I need to password it, and >> ad a confirmation, and a bunch of stuff. Plus, we have a use case >> where we actually want a Flush every things NOW button. That the SQL >> version of our code does really well. And we can't quite find an >> analog for in GQL >> >> Brandon Wirtz >> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary >> Description:http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg >> >> Work: 510-992-6548 >> Toll Free: 866-400-4536 >> IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) >> Skype: drakegreene >> YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> >> BlackWaterOpsDotCom >> <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops >> >> <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kluin >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:38 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! >> >> I wrote a simple task-based script that can delete a few tens of >> millions of entities within a few hours. So I'd suggest just writing > something. >> >> Robert >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 00:27, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It can take days. >> >> Brandon Wirtz >> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary >> Description:http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg >> >> Work: 510-992-6548 >> Toll Free: 866-400-4536 >> IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) >> Skype: drakegreene >> YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> >> BlackWaterOpsDotCom >> <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops >> >> <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timofey Koolin >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:14 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! >> >> You can delete all items of any kind from datastore admin. >> 2012/2/2 Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> I want Drop Table. >> >> Can I restore empty table? >> >> Brandon Wirtz >> BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary >> Description:http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg >> >> Work: 510-992-6548 >> Toll Free: 866-400-4536 >> IM: [email protected] (Google Talk) >> Skype: drakegreene >> YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/blackwateropsdotcom> >> BlackWaterOpsDotCom >> <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops >> >> <http://www.cloudonastring.com/> Cloud On A String Mastermind Group >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Collins >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] App Engine SDK 1.6.2 is out! >> >> Namespace backups would be pure awesomeness. Or some way to automate >> the backups. It seems you have to backup each entity manually at the > moment?On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:35 AM, WGuerlich <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> The backup feature is great! But having backups not only by entity >> kind but also by namespace would be uber-awesome. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To view this discussion on the web > visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/yd8HVGZPREsJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Blog:www.rekby.ru >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:google-appengine%[email protected]> . >> For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To ... >> >> read more » >> >> image001.jpg >> < 1KViewDownload >> >> image002.jpg >> < 1KViewDownload > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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