On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Hélène.Bosc <[email protected]> wrote:

> Stevan,
> Problably it's too verbose and could have been more clearly written! But we 
> are lucky in France
> to have such a level of understanding of Open Access! This column published 
> in le Monde is a
> way to educate policy makers (and others) !
> Perhaps it's not a perfect document but it exists! And it's more complete and 
> true
> (talking about OA)  that this one : 
> http://openaccess.mpg.de/2121558/MPDL_Open_Access_White_Paper 
> <http://openaccess.mpg.de/2121558/MPDL_Open_Access_White_Paper>! 
> Hélène Bosc

Hélène,

You are absolutely (as well as relatively) right!

Let’s hope it leads to concrete implementation sooner than  the “Berlin 
Declaration <http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march05/harnad/03harnad.html>”
of 2003 (still not implemented in 2016).

But let’s also remember that it is not declarations or petitions 
<http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0934.html> or even 
attention 
that OA has lacked since at least 1994 
<http://poynder.blogspot.ca/2014/06/the-subversive-proposal-at-20.html>: 
It’s action.

The 22+ years needlessly lost so far are irretrievable. The question (for 
future historians <http://www.dlib.org/dlib/december99/12harnad.html>) 
will be how many more were lost, since 2016, until the optimal, inevitable and 
obvious 
outcome — fully within reach for decades — was at last grasped?

After all, OA is not (and never has been) rocket science. It’s just  raincoat 
science 
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/179-Raincoat-Science.html>.

But I’m just repeating myself...

SH

> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Stevan Harnad <mailto:[email protected]>
>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GOAL]FW: [accesouvert] Pour une science ouverte à tous
>> 
>> Too verbose and vague: All scientific and scholarly research must be made 
>> freely accessible to everyone online immediately upon passing peer review.
>> 
>> SH
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 3:10 AM, BAUIN Serge <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> (sorry for cross posting)
>>> 
>>> For those who can read French or can have a short French text easily 
>>> explained.
>>> 
>>> As you may be aware of, a law is under scrutiny now in France with two 
>>> articles concerning scientific publications.
>>> One is about open access and the right for authors to deposit their papers 
>>> in a an OA repository (very similar to the German law), the second one 
>>> about TDM rights (very similar to the English law).
>>> The French law has been adopted by the « Assemblée Nationale » (lower 
>>> chamber) and is now in the hands of the « Sénat » (higher chamber).
>>> Lobbying by some publishers endangers a proper voting in the Sénat.
>>> An opinion column signed by 33 top level scientists, including 3 Nobel 
>>> price and a Fields medal laureates, has been published in « Le Monde 
>>> <http://www.lemonde.fr/sciences/article/2016/03/07/pour-une-science-ouverte-a-tous_4878011_1650684.html?xtmc=pour_une_science_ouverte_a_tous&xtcr=4>
>>>  » early this month.
>>> The decision has been taken to turn this column into a petition to be 
>>> addressed to Thierry Mandon, Junior Minister for Higher Education and 
>>> Research.
>>> 
>>> You can sign it and have it signed if you will.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Serge
>>> 
>>> De : Emilien RUIZ <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Répondre à : Emilien RUIZ <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Date : Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:37:36 +0100
>>> À : "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, 
>>> "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Objet : [accesouvert] Pour une science ouverte à tous
>>> 
>>> Bonjour à toutes et tous,
>>> 
>>> Constatant le poids politique d'un très petit nombre d'éditeurs privés et 
>>> leur activisme contre la loi auprès des cabinets (Recherche, Education, 
>>> Culture, Premier Ministre, Elysée), nous avons décidé, avec les co-auteurs 
>>> de la tribune parue dans Le Monde le 7 mars dernier, de la transformer en 
>>> pétition sur Change.org <http://change.org/>, afin de collecter la 
>>> signature des "chercheurs de terrain". Notre objectif est d'atteindre 
>>> plusieurs milliers de signatures avant le vote de la loi.
>>> 
>>> https://www.change.org/p/thierry-mandon-education-gouv-fr-pour-une-science-ouverte-%C3%A0-tous
>>>  
>>> <https://www.change.org/p/thierry-mandon-education-gouv-fr-pour-une-science-ouverte-%C3%A0-tous>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Si vous partagez le point de vue de ce texte, n'hésitez pas à le signer et 
>>> à le diffuser.
>>> 
>>> Bien cordialement,
>>> -- 
>>> Émilien Ruiz
>>> Maître de conférences en histoire contemporaine
>>> Université Lille 3 - IRHiS (UMR 8529)
>>> Site web <http://e-ruiz.com/> | Page professionnelle 
>>> <http://irhis.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/0EC-Ruiz.html>
>>> 

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