Hi Andrea, That's exactly my point. I do assume that it was not intended for these two to coexist, but it should just work fine because there are two different registries and the operations interfaces are different, so in theory these two do not collide at all. That gives all users a good "workaround" to live with until applications and libraries have succeeded to migrate.
And that's also exactly where my PR comes in. The three mentioned ImageN libraries (and only those three!) contain ServiceLoader definitions that are wrong. The register the ImageN operations at the JAI registry. That leads to class cast exceptions (wrong interfaces). That's the point that must definitely be fixed whatsoever. Now that fixed, here arises the second aspect: Right now you cannot mix standard ImageN and ServiceLoader registration. ImageN does not support that. It will fail to initialize if one operation had already been registered by that other means. So you must decide: either support multiple ways of registration in the ImageN core or decide upon one and let it go. Therefore my PR removes the three ServiceLoader definitions: 1) because they were wrong and 2) because that is the least invasive fix to make ImageN initialize correctly. The PR#119 was tested locally running GeoServer 2.2.8.0 and another application that uses JAI and it worked just fine. I hope you can agree that this is a proper fix and should be part in one of the next releases. For us it is a show-stopper for upgrading to GT 33.x / GS 2.28.x. Thanks! Sören -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrea Aime <[email protected]> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2025 15:25 An: Kalesse Sören <[email protected]> Cc: GeoTools Users <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [Geotools-gt2-users] GeoTools 34.0 released for Java 17 with Eclipse ImageN processing engine Hi, I second what Jody said, there was no plan to make the coexist, it's an upgrade path. However... I believe that a coexistence could be possible, the java packages are different, so by having ImageN use a different file name for the registry files in META-INF, from registryFile.jai to registryFile.imagen, a coexistence might be possible, even if likely wasteful (two separate image processing caches in memory are not the greatest of ideas). A coexistence is just not in our plans, but since ImageN is not yet available as 1.0, if DWD wants to put the development effort to get it done, I would not be against it. I see this applicable to the GeoServer 3.0 series. I would recommend switching existing software to ImageN though, we prepared migration scripts that should help in the endeavor. Regards, Andrea Aime == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services-us <http://bit.ly/gs-services-us> for more information. == Ing. 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If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 5:29 PM Kalesse Sören <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hi, thanks for the new release! We have noticed a problem though, that deals with environments where GeoTools (and now ImageN) and JAI are used at the same time. 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Thanks and Best Regards Sören -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jody Garnett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2025 20:57 An: GeoTools Users <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Betreff: [Geotools-gt2-users] GeoTools 34.0 released for Java 17 with Eclipse ImageN processing engine The GeoTools team is pleased to announce the release <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwazk7bj5uNG8+Oj5saW5ub2s4NT5raW5paWg+bGw+bjs0OT41azw9PCt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wNT0rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fgeotoolsnews.blogspot.com%2f2025%2f10%2fgeotools-340-release.html> of the latest stable version of GeoTools 34.0 <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwbDU1azU5OWhpaT9sbG5rPTRuPmw9ND9rOWg7NGhuPDU9Oz88aWtsOit5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fsourceforge.net%2fprojects%2fgeotools%2ffiles%2fGeoTools%252034%2520Releases%2f34.0%2f> . This release is available from the repo.osgeo.org <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+YGFhNzE3MmAxNDM1YmJlNjNhOzpiYTpiYjc6NGU6N2BiNTRiOjQyZiV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=http%3a%2f%2frepo.osgeo.org> <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwbGw0Pms+O2g7NDs/aD84NT47PjloPj48O2g6PGw7OGxpbDg+aG44byt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=http%3a%2f%2frepo.osgeo.org> and is made in conjunction with ImageN 0.9.0, ImageIO-Ext 2.0.0, GeoWebCache 1.28.0, and GeoServer 2.28.0. This is a major update: * The library now requires Java 17, ending support for Java 11 * Upgrade from Java Advanced Imaging Library 1.1.3 to Eclipse ImageN 0.9.0. * Library now provides a maven bill-of-materials import for both library modules and third-party-dependences making it considerably easier for downstream projects to synchronize dependences when upgrading GeoTools * For more information please see upgrade instructions <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwNDk1bjo7P2s0bms0OTk9aTo+a287a2k8PzlvbjhuaTw9PjtoPj81NSt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fdocs.geotools.org%2fstable%2fuserguide%2fwelcome%2fupgrade.html> in the user manual Thanks to Jody Garnett (GeoCat) for making this release, Gabriel Roldan (Camptocamp) for all the build improvements, and Andrea Aime (GeoServer) for working so hard on the Eclipse ImageN migration. These major library updates were undertaken as part of the GeoServer 3 activities, and we would like to the crowdfunding sponsors their financial support. _______________________________________________ GeoTools-GT2-Users mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-gt2-users <https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+Zmc0OmBnYDViNTA1NDdmMzMyNTQ6ZmIxYmcxNTJnNTMyNGJiNDU2NiV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=https%3a%2f%2flists.sourceforge.net%2flists%2flistinfo%2fgeotools-gt2-users> _______________________________________________ GeoTools-GT2-Users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-gt2-users
