Dear Robert C and John N--I would note that a new effort has been started between universities and the Vatican to push moral, ethical, and other approaches to communicate the urgency of climate change. See https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2026-03/global-alliance-laudato-si-village-university-of-notre-dame.html

Along with Robert C, I'm also a bit skeptical that moral and ethical arguments will work (so environmental justice and care for future generations), but if they perhaps combine the argument that transformation of the global energy system will have many environmental benefits (limiting climate change, less air and water pollution and associated health benefits, etc.) and can even lower the cost of electricity over time, perhaps the combined set of reasons and the availability of the clean technologies that can make it happen, perhaps there is hope getting acceleration of efforts to reduce emissions, etc.

By the way, the US Bishops Conference put forth a statement in 2002 on global climate change that focused on ethics and being good stewards that I think has pretty well stood the test of time on such reasoning, even if, along with all other types of approaches, global emissions and global warming are still continuing. For their statement, see https://www.usccb.org/resources/global-climate-change-plea-dialogue-prudence-and-common-good [just to note, though not a Catholic, I was the scientist they recruited to be on the panel that prepared the statement, reviewing something like two dozen drafts and encouraged them to focus on reasoning for which the bishops would be recognized and respected--so moral and ethical basis for taking action].

Best, Mike



On 3/12/26 6:34 PM, John Nissen wrote:
Hi Robert,

I was trying to counter those who claim to be against SAI on moral grounds. The letter to the EU raises the issue you mention: the policies of exploitation have to be replaced by policies of protection: protecting the Arctic and European peoples from the escalating climate change and threatening sea level rise.

Cheers John

On Thu, 12 Mar 2026, 10:19 pm , <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi John

    I know I'm the resident party pooper so you'll hopefully forgive
    me if I ask how much weight you think the moral arguments will
    have when set against Russia and China (and probably US) economic
    interests in an Arctic East/West sea route and in exploiting its
    mineral wealth?  Might they not see refreezing the Arctic as a bad
    idea?

    Regards

    RobertC


    On 12/03/2026 21:43, John Nissen wrote:
    Hi Mike and Dave,

    I think there has suddenly emerged a moral imperative for
    refreezing the Arctic. The climate community advocating for
    emissions reduction have assumed that SAI was a last resort. They
    had not done the engineering calculations for preventing the
    Arctic tipping processes reaching a point of no return.  When
    they examine and confirm our calculations, we can point out the
    absolute moral imperative for ramping up SAI as quickly as
    possible to cool the Arctic, while confirming other research
    which shows that side effects are manageable.

    SAI has moved from last resort to first resort. This is a
    necessary paradigm shift for government advisers and advisory
    groups who have hitherto advised for delay or even a moratorium
    on SAI.

    Nobody should be ashamed of changing their position: the facts
    have changed due to overlooked engineering considerations and
    unexpected speed of events, such as albedo loss and
    atlantification in the Arctic.

    We are in an unprecedented situation which demands unprecedented
    action.

    Cheers John

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026, 6:27 pm 'Michael MacCracken' via Planetary
    Restoration, <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi Herb--The paper seems to mainly be expressing views on
        geoengineering applicable to proposals for geoengineering
        back in the 1950s and 1960s that were aimed at changing the
        climate back then in ways to gain access to needed resources
        and take on projects thought to be beneficial to society. As
        it turned out, such projects did not go forward, in part due
        to reasons of hubris and the other issues raised in the
        article. Melting of the Arctic to get at its presumed
        resources was, for example, an idea goes back to the 1870s,
        and there were a number of other such ideas. Now, 60 or so
        years later, these critical views of using geoengineering to
        alter the world away from its natural state are now being
        applied to geoengineering's proposed use to keep the world as
        close as possible to what it naturally was (so the reverse of
        the situation when the arguments were first assembled). In
        addition, with mitigation chosen as the preferred approach
        for dealing with climate change, the notion that this will
        not be sufficient and that the world will also need to resort
        to geoengineering is, in my view, being seen as a personal
        failure of those who had taken that position rather than a
        situation caused by the massiveness of the transition that is
        needed and the significant resources, technologies, and
        economical and political commitment needed to make it happen.

        With so many locked in to their position that mitigation must
        be the only approach used, there has been a blizzard of
        articles opposed to geoengineering that has created a
        momentum of opposition that is now drowning out dissenting
        views. Those who are creating the blizzard seem to persist in
        part because they are getting credit for being in the
        mainstream that got its start 60 years ago, all without
        noting the different purpose of geoengineering applicable to
        the present situation. In few of these articles is there
        acceptance and accountability taken of what lies ahead
        without intervention if geoengineering is not tried--what
        will be their answers then.

        Your fundamental question of the past several years, Herb,
        remains valid. I'll augment, however, with an insert in
        brackets for clarity: "If not now [after three decades of the
        UNFCCC international agreement calling for avoiding dangerous
        anthropogenic interference with the climate system and with
        global emissions still rising and nowhere near to being on a
        timely path to net zero that will avoid of order a doubling,
        if not more, of the current increase in global average
        temperature], then when [will the seriousness of the
        consequences be enough to stimulate a reconsideration of the
        60 year old view that the authors of the article are
        arguing}?" None of those writing the articles of opposition
        to geoengineering seem willing to consider anything other
        than the mitigation-only approach that is failing, and, even
        with CDR and adaptation, seems to be getting closer and
        closer to failing to a disastrous degree.

        As I recall, the talk that I gave at the DC Climate Week last
        year addressed most, if possibly not all, of the stated
        objections and concerns that the authors found were
        motivating the opposition. I'll see if I can briefly respond
        to each of the concerns that were identified. We do need to
        get a response out there, and perhaps you can help in
        preparing it. I would also note that the Open Letter Ron
        Baiman has been leading already addresses a number of the points.

        Best, Mike MacCracken


        On 3/11/26 11:56 AM, H simmens wrote:
        A recently published paper describes eight reasons why the
        authors claim that opposition to solar geoengineering is
        growing.

        Unless those supportive of direct cooling can mount
        convincing arguments against these concerns supporters of
        cooling will remain on the defensive.

        I am not aware of any paper or article that attempts to
        systematically respond to each of these concerns.

        “Why do actors oppose the development and potential future
        use of solar geoengineering technologies? This article maps
        and analyzes growing opposition to the development of
        planetary-scale solar geoengineering technologies among
        three actor groups—govern-

        ments, civil society and academics.


        While much social science research on such technolo-

        gies has addressed questions of feasibility, acceptance,
        legality, the desirability of more research or hypothetical
        governance designs, hardly any empirical analyses exist of
        the opposition to these technologies.


        Drawing on numerous policy documents, civil society

        declarations and academic statements, this article
        identifies eight diverse rationales that underpin current
        opposition from governments, intergovernmental bodies, civil
        society

        and academic communities to solar geoengineering.


        These rationales include:


        concerns about:


        risks and uncertainties of potential solar geoengineering
        schemes,


        their failure to address the root causes of climate change,


        risks of delaying mitigation,


        likely violations of international law,


        entrenchment of unjust power relations,


        presumed ungovernability,


        technological hubris, and the


        violation of the Earth’s integrity.


        Our analysis also finds evi-

        dence of cross-fertilization among these rationales and a
        gradual normalization of a global‘non-use’ discourse.


        Overall, these critical perspectives increasingly shape the
        normative and political terrain within which solar
        geoengineering is being deliberated.”


        https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10584-026-04131-6.pdf


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