090917 Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Philip Webb <purs...@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>> Konsole 4.3.1 -- it seems impossible to predetermine window size;
> It saves its size properly for me.
> For specifying a size (not restoring the last-used size),
> in KDE you can specify extensive window placement and geometry profiles
> for windows by right-clicking on the titlebar
> and choosing "Configure window behavior...". 
> I have no idea about Fluxbox.

That doesn't work in Fluxbox.  It will accept 'konsole --geometry ... ',
but that has no effect on window size; you can set a single size by hand
in  konsolerc , but there's no apparent way to do that for profiles.
The big attraction of Konsole 3 is that it has so many options.
For me, it's a show-stopper & if it isn't fixed in 4.4.1 , I'll use Xterm.

>> Okular 4.3.1 -- usable, but no noticeable improvement on Kpdf 3.5.10 .
> Okular does so much more than Kpdf it's not even funny.
>   http://okular.kde.org/formats.php

Yes, another day's use suggests it renders PDFs better than Kpdf
(that's what I use it for) & it does show JPGs properly too.
That complaint is withdrawn (tho' there's an ugly wide bar on the left side).

>> Konqueror 4.3.1 -- no way to import bookmarks,
> Konqueror has more import options than any other browser I've ever seen!
> There are extensive "Import" and "Export" menus in the bookmarks editor.

It appears you have to install another pkg to get this
-- it's not a Gentoo dependency -- , but manually copying them works too.
I rarely use Konqueror, but it's useful occasionally.

>> Kmahjongg 4.3.1 -- they've abolished the grid of removed tiles !
> According to a single google search for "kmahjongg removed tiles",
> the primary author of Kmahjongg stated he removed that feature in 2006.

No, it's present in 3.5.10 , which I'm using (I just played a game with it).
It's another feature which has been dropped in KDE 4 ,
like setting the size of a Konsole window when you open it (above).
Another show-stopper, but perhaps the gods want me to get out more (smile).

>> Gwenview 4.3.1 -- yes, an improvement on the old independent Gwenview,
>>  esp the tree menu, but also rendering of images + thumbnails.
> I don't use it, but it seems to do its job.
> I prefer Geeqie because I am more used to its keyboard navigation.

Gwenview 4 is a noticeable improvement.

>> Krusader 2.0.0 -- my choice for heavy lifting: no noticeable change.
> I've never tried it.

It's very powerful.  The new version seems to be the same but for KDE 4 .
I'm happy to use the CLI for everyday file management.

>> I won't comment on the aesthetics of the brave new KDE ...
> It's different, but I like it.  It has grown on me over time.
> KDE3 looks plain and old-fashioned now when I go back and see it.

Like another respondent (and many others), I prefer "plain & old-fashioned".
We have street cars (trams) running by the end of my street,
as they have since 1892, which is why we have healthy neighbourhoods here,
but go-ahead modern cities like NY & London wiped them out long ago (grin).

Thanks for the various responses, incl the inadvertently amusing ones.

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