On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dale asked *where* system is defined, not what it consists of.
Well, he was asking many things. One can run into several directions with all the questions he asked, depending on the assumptions one makes. ;) > It appears you are completely missing the point. It is indeed very easy to > add things to the @system set, but we are talking about the system set, > and it is broken out of the box as shipped. I'm just focusing on it on a level where we (the users, me, you, Mr. Dalek, or the OP) can do things about it, where we have immediate write access. That rules out the Gentoo repos and leaves the local boxes. We also can and should escalate it to those who can do more, and IIRC some kind person (you? missed it and forgot who it was) already offered to file the bug. Short of becoming a dev, what more can be done in a volunteer-based distro? > Portage will not let you unmerge portage or gcc without a fight. Been there, done exactly that (with gcc), though no t-shirts were awarded. A 10-second countdown (IIRC) is hardly a "fight". (But the reinstall sure was, won't do it ever again if I simply can avoid it!) :) > But it's not working that way today. Ergo, it is broken. I think that is what we agree on, it warrants an escalation (a bug or a feature request). It is the immediate things vs. higher level reporting that we seem to be slightly mixed up about. I already asked quickly about this on #gentoo on Saturday and the resident devs there hadn't heard about this, but didn't really appear that worried either. I won't blame them. This won't destroy your data, this will only make certain breakage cases a bit more complicated, and if you really need the four or five nines uptimes, you can try mitigating the problem by, e.g., going full scale buildpkg for everything. Furthermore, the glep-55 discussion seems to be heating up again on the -dev-list, so I wouldn't expect the devs to be quick to fix anything related to the PMS/multiple package manager issues right now. They're too busy flinging all shades of poo. Summer, they should have lectures and exams during summer at Universities, too. :/ -- Arttu V.
