On Sunday 24 May 2009 11:28:30 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:07:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be
> > > satisfied by Paludis, which does not need Python.
> >
> > Lucky for you, I know your sense of humour by now :-)
> >
> > Doesn't help portage users though, and portage is still the default
> > package manager on Gentoo. I don't see that changing any time soon, if
> > ever.
> >
> > Besides, unless you do it manually, you need portage to install
> > paludis, right? Without python, you don't get paludis.
> >
> > Either way, it's a bug. portage supports inheriting multiple parent
> > profiles. One approach would be to add a new collection of profiles in
> > addition to the existing base/, default/ and targets/ - called say
> > pkgmgr.
>
> Is it really a bug? Postage is the default for the virtual and it depends
> on python, so there is no need for python itself to be in @system. This
> doesn't cause any problems except the one Dale mentions, which is that
> FEATURES=buildsyspkg does not build a package for python. man make.conf
> describes this option as "Build binary packages for just packages in the
> system set. Which is accurate but maybe not the desired behaviour. The
> option should really by to build packages for packages in @system and
> their dependencies. Put another way, build all the packages necessary to
> run "emerge -eK @system".
>
> I'd suggest filing an enhancement request on b.g.o.
Using the "this is very unexpected behaviour" definition of bug, I certainly
do call it a bug. All three of the following commands, produce the same end
result (a b0rked system), but are treated very differently. I my mind, delete
warnings should be handled the same as installs, by taking the entire dep tree
into account:
a...@nazgul ~ $ sudo emerge -avC python
Password:
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
dev-lang/python
selected: 2.5.4-r2 2.6.2
protected: none
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] n
Quitting.
a...@nazgul ~ $ sudo emerge -avC portage
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
* Not unmerging package sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc33 since there is no valid
* reason for portage to unmerge itself.
>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
a...@nazgul ~ $ sudo emerge -avC gcc
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
!!! 'sys-devel/gcc' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
sys-devel/gcc
selected: 4.3.3-r2
protected: none
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] n
Quitting.
I'll file a feature request
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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
