* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [08.07.08 15:10]:
> Sascha Hlusiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Some hints to you:
> 
> If you replace nail A by nail B, it still remains a nail.
> 
>       If you believe that "the schily makefilesystem" refers to
>       "scripts used to control compilation", then "cmake" of course
>       is nothing different.
> 
>       If you believe that "cmake" is a separate program, then of course
>       "the schily makefilesystem" is also a separate program.
> 
> 
> Now you should _carefully_ read your own text........
> You introduced the term "cmake scripts" for your own confusion. If you 
> understand 
> _what_ this is in _contrary to "cmake" or "the schily makefilesystem", you 
> answered your question and you know why Bloch/Debian cannot be taken for 
> serious.
> 

OK, now I finally got it right:

It is about the "scripts". What other people may call makefiles.

The scripts and files bundled with your cdrtools to control the build 
process are under CDDL. 

E.g. RULES/i686-linux-gcc.rul:

#ident "@(#)i586-linux-gcc.rul  1.11 07/05/09 "
###########################################################################
# Written 1996 by J. Schilling
###########################################################################
#
# Platform dependent MACROS for Linux
#
###########################################################################
# Copyright (c) J. Schilling
###########################################################################
# The contents of this file are subject to the terms of the
# Common Development and Distribution License, Version 1.0 only
# (the "License").  You may not use this file except in compliance
# with the License.
#
# See the file CDDL.Schily.txt in this distribution for details.
#
# When distributing Covered Code, include this CDDL HEADER in each
# file and include the License file CDDL.Schily.txt from this distribution.
###########################################################################


But the Debian maintainers stated, that this files - *necessary* to 
build cdrtools - have to be under GPL.

An interpretation of the GPL which I can follow.

> 
> I recommend you to first inform yourself before asking again....
> 

So now I'm informed (you did *not* help, on the contrary...):

All the fuzz because of the Makefiles? You really must hate the GPL, for 
not double licensing these.

> Jörg
> 

BTW: for the next time, and there will be a next time, just copy 
yourself the following disclaimer and include it to every mail:

" You are using a fork of the original software, which may not support 
all features, which are already implemented in the original. 

The fork is based on the disagreement on how the GPL is to be 
interpreted:
1) linking of GPL and CDDL code. The FSF states that you cannot legally 
   link GPL and CDDL code, but there is no word about linking in the 
   GPL.
2) about the license of makefiles. The distribution which 
   first excluded cdrtools, insisted on the fact, that all makefiles had 
   to be under GPL to distribute it. This is a corrlation of two 
   unrelated clauses in the GPL.

I therfor behold this interpretation of GPL as wrong, and urge you to 
use the orginal as it has more features, and also advise all binary 
distributors to contact their lawyers to verify my opinion, as I have 
done.

This so called problem definitely does not apply for all source based 
distributions (e.g. Gentoo). So there is no problem to use the 
original." 
Put some links in it, maybe with quotings of some resonable people, thus 
not you! An also not a link to your awfull page 
http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html

This should be all about the issue; no insults, no conspiracy theories, 
no discussions about freedom with me. It is not for your cause...

If your software is superior, than you should not have to insult any 
other people. Let your software speak. Like you said in the 
debian bugreport: "Der Ton macht die Musike"

saying "This feature is only implemented in the orginal, use this and 
your problem is gone." gets far mor people on your side than "Your are 
using a software implemented by dorks, full of bugs and they dared to 
mess with my beloved code."

Peaceful
Sebastian, which still resides on the FSF and Debian way of seeing 
things.

And remember: there will always be people that have another, even 
contrary, opinion than yours. Try to convince them, and not insult them.

-- 
 " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. "      Karl Marx

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