On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:33:04PM +0200, b.n. wrote:
> ehm, I guess I wasn't clear.
> You *already* knew:
> - That there are texlive and tetex
> - That tetex was EOLed and texlive was the next choice
> - That tetex and texlive are mutually exclusive
> - That the ebuild was in the tree

Oh.. that...

> I knew, instead:
> - You want to install latex, this usually pushes down tetex. I always 
> had tetex, on Gentoo and non-Gentoo distros, and I didn't ask myself 
> anything about texlive.
> - I even *didn't know* there is texlive. 
> - I didn't certainly know tetex was into problems: was there a 
> widespread announcement of that *for people not following tetex 
> development*?

tetex was not running into problems. tetex has almost always been a
one man act, and the maintainer, who, after over a decade of
maintaining bug fixes and what-nots, finally decided that he has no
more time and no longer cares enough. And he pulled through until a
viable alternative was available. 

> - Knowing nothing about what tetex, texlive etc. are, I even could 
> expect that they could happily live together (e.g., if they are two 
> implementations of tex, that one could eselect one or the other. Naive, 
> but why not?)
> - Knowing nothing about texlive, I couldn't know there was its ebuild.

The best thing to do would be to ask here, I think. Of course, that
leads to the problem of you not knowing that a question ought to be
asked to start with...

> Furthermore, kudos to your prudence: seeing a lot of use flags never 
> raised me thoughts like "it must be complicated": it just lets me think 
> "whoa, lots of nice options!".

Thanks for the compliment. 

> Apart from this last point, that may just me being dense, where was that 
> knowledge announced? Was it in the GMN (in that case, my fault)? Is 
> there something else that I should regularly check for stuff like that? 
> (another thing was the expat upgrade, which I understood was troublesome 
> only from posts on this ML).   I am subscribed to gentoo-announce, but 
> there only a huge mass of GLSA are usually posted. What news source am I 
> missing? Since it's 4 years I use Gentoo, I feel quite sad about that...

Let's just say I have an exceptionally good memory. The death of tetex
was announced about two years ago
  http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060612-newsletter.xml
and I know I also saw that fact somewhere on /. (perhaps not an
article but a comment). After I saw the announcements, I went to 
  http://www.tug.org/tetex/
where, the first thing they (I mean, Thomas Esser) say is that "I
suggest ... TeX Live project". 

But, I agree, unless you are a tex junkie (like me) or an obsessive
reader of GMN/GWN (like me also) you may not have heard the news. 
 
W
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