On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 15:46 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:17:32PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > The background of the image looks green to me (0, 255, 0), but identify
> > claims it's white.  Is there a way I can know for sure without having to
> > go through all the RGB codes?  The convert created BMP's won't open in
> > gimp....
> > 
> I don't think identify is THAT good. :)
> 
> I am pretty sure the "background" part is an artifact of the identify
> program, and not actually any information in the bmp file. AFAIK, the 
> Windows BMP file format is just that: bitmaps. It does not store 
> additional information such as the background color.
> 
> I think the problem is that you converted from a format (gif) that stores
> information about backgrounds to one (bmp) that doesn't, and therefore
> the information got lost. 
> 
> If you try identify on the originals, you will probably pick up the 
> correct colors. 
> 
> W
> -- 
> Willie W. Wong                                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics,  Princeton University,  Princeton
> A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given.
This is the identify information for the original:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ourrpg $ identify -verbose ffight.gif
Image: /home/michael/ffight.gif
  Format: GIF (CompuServe graphics interchange format)
  Class: PseudoClass
  Geometry: 64x64+0+0
  Type: PaletteMatte
  Endianess: Undefined
  Colorspace: RGB
  Depth: 8-bit
  Channel depth:
    Red: 8-bit
    Green: 8-bit
    Blue: 8-bit
    Alpha: 1-bit
  Channel statistics:
    Red:
      Min: 0 (0)
      Max: 255 (1)
      Mean: 55.8652 (0.219079)
      Standard deviation: 104.988 (0.411717)
    Green:
      Min: 0 (0)
      Max: 255 (1)
      Mean: 192.945 (0.756648)
      Standard deviation: 98.3791 (0.3858)
    Blue:
      Min: 0 (0)
      Max: 255 (1)
      Mean: 10.8623 (0.0425973)
      Standard deviation: 44.2567 (0.173556)
    Opacity:
      Min: 0 (0)
      Max: 255 (1)
      Mean: 171.079 (0.670898)
      Standard deviation: 119.821 (0.469887)
  Alpha: rgba(0,255,0,1)    #00FF0000
  Histogram:
      2748: (  0,255,  0,255) #00FF0000 rgba(0,255,0,1)
       668: (255, 57,  0,  0) #FF3900 rgb(255,57,0)
       444: (  0,  0,  0,  0) #000000 black
       212: (247,214,181,  0) #F7D6B5 rgb(247,214,181)
        24: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
  Colormap: 256
         0: (  0,  0,  0,  0) #000000 black
         1: (  0,255,  0,255) #00FF0000 rgba(0,255,0,1)
         2: (247,214,181,  0) #F7D6B5 rgb(247,214,181)
         3: (255, 57,  0,  0) #FF3900 rgb(255,57,0)
         4: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
         5: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
         6: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
         7: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
         8: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
         9: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        10: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        11: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        12: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        13: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        14: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        15: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        16: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        17: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        18: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        19: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        20: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        21: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        22: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        24: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        25: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        27: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        29: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        30: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        31: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        32: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        33: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        34: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        35: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        36: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        37: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        38: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        39: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        40: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        42: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        43: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        44: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        45: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        46: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        47: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        48: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        60: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        65: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        66: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        67: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        78: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        79: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        83: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        84: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        85: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        86: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        87: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        88: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        89: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        90: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        92: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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        97: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        98: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
        99: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       100: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       101: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       102: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       103: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       104: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       105: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       106: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       107: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       108: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       109: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       110: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       111: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       112: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       113: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       114: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       115: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       116: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       117: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       118: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       119: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       120: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       121: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       122: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       123: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       124: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       125: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       126: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       127: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       128: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       129: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       130: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       131: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       132: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       133: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       134: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       135: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
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       137: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       138: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       139: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       140: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       141: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       142: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       143: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       144: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       145: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       146: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       147: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       148: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       149: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       150: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       151: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       152: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       153: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       154: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       155: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       156: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       157: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       158: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       159: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       160: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       161: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       162: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       163: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       164: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       165: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       166: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       167: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       168: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       169: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       170: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       171: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       172: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       173: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       174: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       175: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       176: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       177: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       178: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       179: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       180: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       181: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       182: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       183: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       184: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       185: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       186: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       187: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       188: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       189: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       190: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       191: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       192: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       193: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       194: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       195: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       196: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       197: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       198: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       199: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       200: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       201: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       202: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       203: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       204: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       205: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       206: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       207: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       208: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       209: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       210: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       211: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       212: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       213: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       214: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       215: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       216: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       217: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       218: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       219: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       220: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       221: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       222: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       223: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       224: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       225: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       226: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       227: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       228: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       229: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       230: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       231: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       232: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       233: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       234: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       235: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       236: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       237: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       238: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       239: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       240: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       241: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       242: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       243: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       244: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       245: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       246: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       247: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       248: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       249: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       250: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       251: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       252: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       253: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       254: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
       255: (255,255,255,  0) #FFFFFF white
  Rendering intent: Undefined
  Resolution: 72x72
  Units: Undefined
  Filesize: 1.1875kb
  Interlace: None
  Background color: black
  Border color: rgb(223,223,223)
  Matte color: grey74
  Transparent color: rgba(0,255,0,1)
  Page geometry: 64x64+0+0
  Dispose: Undefined
  Compression: ColorBurn
  Orientation: Undefined
  Signature:
35337a670266b1d6687c903e52b2cfe0568ef47b2ca46ea59ea0072736dc6a2a
  Tainted: False
  Version: ImageMagick 6.3.5 09/29/07 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org

It claims that the background is black, but the gif doesn't show a
background at all, and the BMP shows a green background.  Can you see
anything in the listing that I haven't that will help me to know what
color I need to set transparent for the BMP?  I tried setting (0, 255,
0, 1) transparent, and it still showed up green.

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