<michael <at> michaelshiloh.com> writes:

> > If there was a Gen_bunto CD for older p2 and p1 machines, all of the
> > kids in my hood would be using gentoo........

> ROTFL - thanks for the laugh James. Gen-bunto - what a concept. My two
> favorite distros right now are Gentoo and Ubuntu, and I wonder about the
> philosopical implications of liking what seem to be polar opposites. Human
> nature, perhaps.


Hello Michael,

Actually, it's not as far fetched as one would
anticipate. There are quite a few wikis that
show how to build a cd for lower speed processors
from a faster machine. Someone with skills would
only have to define what's different, between
 a 200MHz AMD vs a P2 and set up thoses
few different files once. As different older
machines are added these few files would be
customized for the various (common) arch's of the
various older machines.

Then lots of admins could each manage a few machines
for the kids in our neighborhoods. I'd do mine over
wireless ethernet and thru the local cable tv network.
I've collected up lots of old hardware for this
purpose....oneday. CFengine would be keen to 
push/manage binaries down to these machines
over TCP/IP. Distributable CDs would be great for
recruiting new members to the Gentoo community.



Therefore we would not have to perform all of the compiling
on these machines, just distribute binaries at night
once a month or so, or print/distribute a CD to
the kids and others with lesser skills/resources.

The only trick is to put up a light-weight desktop,
that would be appealing to many. With an open-mosix
kernel, we could even cluster these machines for
aggregated power, once open-mosix stabilizes
on 2.6 kernels. That way, a group of gen_bunto
users could pool their individually meager resources
into something special, or as more old machine become
available, each kid could build their own cluster:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Mythtv_With_
Diskless_Workstations_in_an_OpenMosix_Cluster

That's the gentoo differential: if the gentoo 
community was to embrace this effort, it could
easily put together something awesome and unmatched
by any other distro/operating system, anywhere.

Here in the US, there are lots of place that will give
you working machines, if you just show up to haul them
away. That number increase exponentially, when you
are willing to spend $5-25 dollars.

Eventually, the gentoo community will get around to this
need for a binary distribution for categories of 
similar/common machines. Recruiting kids into gentoo, would be the 
smartest move possible, for the future of Gentoo, in my opinion.
It's easy for me to motivate schools/clubs/groups of kids
to use linux, it's just difficult to organize and time
consuming, under the current gentoo semantics. After using
Gentoo for a few years, I'm getting rid of my openbsd
and debian boxes..... I like the concepts that drive
*buntu, I just strongly  prefer gentoo.


James




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