On Wednesday 18 January 2006 22:04, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 1/18/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 18 January 2006 08:22, Richard Fish wrote:
> > > traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
> >
> > Usually traceroute does not work.  They block it somewhere and I get a
> > but ****** stuff.  Anyway, this one worked, for once.
>
> Tell them to cut that sh*t out.  Traceroute is far too useful of a
> debugging tool to be blocked by your ISP.  Ok, so they don't want ICMP
> flooding...there are better ways of recognizing and defending against
> this...

Me agrees with that but it is blocked above them and they can't get them to 
stop it.  It does tick me off sometimes too.



>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # traceroute -n mail.exceedtech.net
> > traceroute to mail.exceedtech.net (65.116.46.23), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > packets 1  63.152.9.43  121.969 ms  120.002 ms  123.893 ms
> >  2  63.152.43.189  123.963 ms  119.943 ms  119.958 ms
> >  3  63.152.126.13  156.027 ms  159.922 ms  155.967 ms
> >  4  205.171.31.9  155.920 ms  156.014 ms  159.886 ms
> >  5  205.171.8.146  175.994 ms  179.910 ms  176.014 ms
> >  6  205.171.21.62  179.964 ms  175.912 ms  179.924 ms
>
> This is crazy...this is all on QWest's network.  Was this from your
> home, or from your brother's house?  Because it looks like you are
> still connecting through someone else's network!

Well, one thing has changed since this morning.  They appear to have had a 
meltdown.  They said they were having trouble with everybody when I called 
after my nap.  I was here at home but they did give me a new number to dial 
in too.  That may explain something.

< snip >


I'm not sure either.  It sounds like Mozilla is doing what it should be doing 
and Kmail is not, if you look at it from the point of preventing spoofing and 
all.  I'll point this out to them tomorrow.
>
> I'm not sure what you can do about this...it isn't wrong to send the
> RCPT TO command, so it doesn't seem to be a bug in mozilla.  Possibly
> if you give this information (and maybe the ethereal traces) to
> exceedtech, they may be able to modify their mail server's
> configuration to compensate.  Or you could try thunderbird...
>
> -Richard


I like Mozilla so that I can right click on a link in a email and open it in a 
new tab instead of having 20 windows open at a time.  I hate clutter in my 
puter.  ;-)  I tried Thunderbird once, wasn't for me.  It may be better than 
Kmail but not that much.

Will keep advised on what happens in the morning though.

Dale
:-)
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