250729 Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 7/27/25 6:46 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> I've run into this before, eg re sound, but not so severely. >> It's a defect in Portage, which no-one seems to want to acknowledge : >> it will happily update a pkg without including its vital requirements. > I think that shouldn't be able to happen except when using --oneshot, > or at least all the times I can recall seeing this were in such a case, > because Portage allows uninstalling or upgrading a package > to break another installed package > iff that other package is eligible for --depclean. > But that is why you're advised to regularly do a full world update > followed by depclean.
I regularly use '-1' when emerging, but have never been aware that that caused significantly different behaviour in itself. in this case, 'clementine' is in my 'world' file. As I see it, Portage allowed 'clementine' to be updated, while failing to insist that some other pkg(s) were updated to match : it's that simple & Portage shouldn't behave like that. >> I was able to solve the problem with the help of 'pkg.ref', >> my own invention long ago (I've been using Gentoo since 2003). >> Here is an extract, listing all 'media-libs' pkgs which are installed : >> >> 230717 media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4-r8 [for vlc] >> 250427 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.2.13-r3 [for FF] >> 230717 media-libs/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.5.1 [for alsa-lib] > Is this manually maintained ? Yes : I carefully update it whenever I emerge anything. Pkgs in 'world' are marked 'W' & in 'system' 'S' ; also, pkgs with special USE needs are marked 'USE' & there is a list of such pkgs + flags towards the end of 'pkg.ref'. > What happens when a package is installed due to multiple other packages ? The '[for ...]' note lists them all. > For top level packages I like to use /etc/portage/sets/* , > which supports comments describing why each package should be in @world. I have several such files in the 'sets' dir, eg 'dev-qt', which allows me to remove & re-install multiple pkgs easily. I don't know how anyone can manage a Gentoo system without such a file. -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet
