On 2025-07-18, Dale wrote: > Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2025-07-09, Dale wrote: [...] >>> I really need to work on what I been wanting to do for years. Set up my >>> own email fetching/sending software locally so that I can use any client >>> I want. >> >> I'd say you might also want to have your own local IMAP server. Might >> not be so easy to configure, but I think it'll be easier to point >> different clients to the IMAP server, compared to e.g. making them work >> with the same message or mailbox storage format. Or is this already what >> you have in mind? >> >> Outgoing/sending can be "centralized" too, but that can be left as a >> later improvement, if you need to do it in parts. > > I've wanted to set up my own mail server for a LONG time. I mentioned > it on this mailing list before. From what I've read, it is like > threading a needle while blind and with only one hand. Everything has > to be just right or something fails. I've read updates can change > things which means you get to thread that needle again. I want to set > up a email system that fetches my email, stores it local so I can use > any email client I want, be it Seamonkey, Kmail or anything else, and > everything be stored here on my machine. I'd also like it to be able to > send emails and me be able to see those with any client, even one I > didn't use to send with. I don't know if that kind of setup is possible > tho. The sending part is where I wonder. If I send a email in say > Seamonkey, how would Kmail know that???
With local IMAP, I just have SeaMonkey set to store a copy of the outgoing message on the appropriate folder. Other clients might offer something similar, although it's possible some don't have that feature. [...] >>> Most often, the sites I do >>> visit with Seamonkey; Gentoo forums, wiki and such. For the last year >>> or so, not much else works. I might add, you about can't get a add-on >>> anymore. The few I have haven't had updates in years. No telling how >>> big a can of Raid those need. >> >> Currently, the best places to get information on extensions are: >> >> - The release notes, >> >> - The status meeting notes, which have a section for extensions, >> e.g. >> https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2025-07-06#Extensions_Tracking >> >> Some extensions are still maintained, and others are in use with updated >> versions made available by users. If some extension does not work, it is >> possible it only needs minor changes, as there have been a small number >> of such breaking changes (IIRC at least one syntax change, and some >> renames; I think most, if not all, of this is linked/listed in that >> meeting notes section). > > As far as I know, Adblock hasn't been updated in a long time. Lastpass > hasn't either. Years for both of those. Enigmail has a recent update. > All the others are years old. Once Firefox changed the way add-ons > worked, Seamonkey stalled. All the add-on devs switched to the new > Firefox method and left Seamonkey behind. Although I'm still with AdBlock Plus, I think the recommendation has been uBlock Origin. I think I recall Lastpass having been mentioned in the USENET group some time ago, but I don't remember the details. > It would seem to me that Seamonkey needs to follow Firefox in a lot of > ways. I have to admit, the switch Firefox made years ago really > improved Firefox in the long term. I don't think moving to webexts would be an improvement. There's also no need to drop regular extensions now, as the current plan is to add features to 2.53, which already has more features than 2.57 would get from the Firefox 60-level. (Didn't webexts also limit what could be done in the add-on?) >>> My biggest two problems, I want to switch from Gmail to a paid service >>> that doesn't snoop. 2, finding a email client that I like. Thunderbird >>> is supposed to be like the email part of Seamonkey but it is vastly >>> different. I don't like it to be honest. I also can't open links in >>> new tabs in a already open instance of Firefox either, or I haven't >>> figured out how yet. >> This shouldn't (hopefully... why am I tempting fate...) be complicated, >> I'm guessing it involves using firefox's "remote" feature to open in a >> new tab instead of a new instance or a new window. In this regard, it >> probably works like SeaMonkey. ...unless Firefox has changed this >> somehow? >> >> My guess would be that nowadays this involves a Freedesktop desktop >> entry file for Firefox capable of opening in a new tab, and associating >> that to the web protocols at the xdg-open level. >> >> Maybe check if this opens in Firefox the way you want. If it doesn't, it >> might be just a matter of changing the default. >> >> xdg-open "https://www.gentoo.org/"; >> >> I think the current handler can be checked with >> >> xdg-settings get default-web-browser >> >> While it's possible to set it with xdg-settings, Firefox should also >> have a way to offer to set itself as the default. >> > > This is what the last command shows. > > > dale@Gentoo-1 / $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser > firefox-esr.desktop > dale@Gentoo-1 / $ > > > What I'd like, when I click on a link, either in a email within > Seamonkey or say in a Konsole, it would pop up and ask me what profile > I'd like it to be opened in. Then at that point, open it in a new tab > if Firefox is already open or start Firefox with previous tabs and add a > new tab for the clicked link. I could make do with it just opening in a > preset profile each time tho. Most likely any link I click on, I'd want > it opened in my profile named "Secure" anyway. That is the one I use > the most for things I used to use Seamonkey for anyway. I'm afraid I don't know how to achieve that. I wonder if mozilla code can do that with the profile manager, or if you need an external tool to select the profile and launch Firefox or SeaMonkey with the appropriate profile flags. If you have the right flags (most notably parameters to open with the specified profile, be it running or not), and it's just a small and stable number of profiles, there are probably extensions to add "open with" options to a context menu, so you wouldn't have exactly what you want, for all tools using the Freedesktop associations, but you could still specify the Firefox profile that way (by opening links with a context menu option) in SeaMonkey Mail&News (or possibly Thunderbird, if web extensions there can do this). -- Nuno Silva
