250719 Javier Martinez wrote:
> El 19/7/25 a las 2:20, Philip Webb escribió:
>> A few weeks ago, a weekly update resulted in KDE failing to start ;
>> as it needed to be updated anyway, I have been using Fluxbox instead.
>> During the past few days, I removed all the old KDE pkgs,
>> did an update of all the Qt pkgs which were installed
>> & re-installed all the previous KDE pkgs in their new versions,
>> so that I now have Qt 5.15.17 + 6.9.1 , KDE Frameworks 6.13.0 ,
>> Plasma 6.3.5 + Apps 25.04.2 .
>> 
>> I use OpenRC with 'startx' + '.xinitrc' :
>> for Fluxbox, the latter is simply 'startfluxbox' ,
>> for KDE, it's 'exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session startplasma-x11',
>> which worked with the old version of KDE & is recommended in Gentoo Wiki.
>> 
>> Now when I enter 'startx', I get a black screen + a movable mouse-pointer,
>> but nothing else, & have to restart the machine & return to Fluxbox.
>> There is an error msg : "$DISPLAY is not set or can't connect to server".
>> 
>> Gentoo Wiki seems to recommend using 'sddm' instead of 'startx',
>> which it describes at "the old method".  I have 'elogind' 2.55.17 installed.
>> 
>> I've looked at the logs in  /var/log , but can't see anything relevant.
>> 
>> Can anyone suggest what may have gone wrong ?
>> Might it be advisable to use 'sddm' in future ?
> use strace to see where it fails :
> eg 'strace -f -o /tmp/output bash -c startx'

Thanks for your prompt reply.

The output is  123 K  lines :
it reaches line 94953 , then repeats this line with increasing 'nsec' :

  clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=243, tv_nsec=397173140}) = 0

The lines immediately before this line are :

13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/xdg/menus", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, stx_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/xdg/menus", 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_CLOEXEC|O_DIRECTORY) = 13
13322 fstat(13, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 7 entries */, 32768) = 280
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 0 entries */, 32768) = 0
13322 close(13)                         = 0
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 
{stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, stx_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, 
stx_size=4096, ..\
.}) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged", 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_CLOEXEC|O_DIRECTORY) = 13
13322 fstat(13, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 3 entries */, 32768) = 88
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 0 entries */, 32768) = 0
13322 close(13)                         = 0
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/home/purslow/.config/menus", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 
{stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, stx_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, 
stx_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/localtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
st_size=3494, ...}, 0) = 0
13322 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/purslow/.config/menus", 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_CLOEXEC|O_DIRECTORY) = 13
13322 fstat(13, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 3 entries */, 32768) = 96
13322 getdents64(13, 0x55b11e080ca0 /* 0 entries */, 32768) = 0
13322 close(13)                         = 0
13322 lseek(12, 0, SEEK_SET)            = 0
13322 statx(12, "", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT|AT_EMPTY_PATH, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, stx_size=0, ...}) = 0
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/home/purslow/.local/share/kservices6/update_ksycoca", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 0x7ffc1c147890) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/local/share/kservices6/update_ksycoca", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 0x7ffc1c147890) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/kservices6/update_ksycoca", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 0x7ffc1c147890) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/home/purslow/.local/share/mime", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 0x7ffc1c1473d0) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/local/share/mime", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 0x7ffc1c1473d0) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/mime", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, stx_size=4096, ...}) = 0
13322 access("/usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml", F_OK) = 0
13322 access("/usr/share/mime/mime.cache", F_OK) = 0
13322 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/mime/mime.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 13
13322 statx(13, "", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT|AT_EMPTY_PATH, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, stx_size=168920, ...}) = 0
13322 statx(13, "", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT|AT_EMPTY_PATH, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, stx_size=168920, ...}) = 0
13322 mmap(NULL, 168920, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 13, 0) = 0x7f95cd91c000
13322 statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/mime/mime.cache", 
AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT, STATX_ALL, 
{stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, 
stx_size=168920, ...}) = 0
13322 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=243, tv_nsec=396584233}) = 0
13322 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=243, tv_nsec=396616640}) = 0
13322 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/mime/types", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 14
13322 statx(14, "", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT|AT_EMPTY_PATH, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, stx_size=21693, ...}) = 0
13322 statx(14, "", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT|AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT|AT_EMPTY_PATH, 
STATX_ALL, {stx_mask=STATX_ALL|STATX_MNT_ID, stx_attributes=0, 
stx_mode=S_IFREG|0644, stx_size=21693, ...}) = 0
13322 read(14, "application/andrew-inset\napplica"..., 16384) = 16384
13322 brk(0x55b11e0c2000)               = 0x55b11e0c2000
13322 read(14, "if\nimage/heif\nimage/ief\nimage/jp"..., 16384) = 5309
13322 read(14, "", 11075)               = 0
13322 read(14, "", 16384)               = 0
13322 close(14)                         = 0

The final  2  lines are :

13322 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=244, tv_nsec=298012204}) = 0
13322 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONI

I can provide the full output file, if that might help.

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