On Thu, May 8, 2025, 22:23 Nate Eldredge <n...@thatsmathematics.com> wrote:

Unless you can reproduce it, I don't think we can reject the "null
hypothesis" that the crash was caused by something unrelated (e.g. hardware
problem) that just coincidentally happened to occur during this particular
task.


I fully agree. I haven't decided whether I'm hoping I can reproduce it, or
whether I'm hoping I can't.

On Thu, May 8, 2025, 22:59 Eli Schwartz <eschwa...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> I would say that this is an almost fallacious way to look at things,
> honestly. urxvt is a userspace application, so it "can't" crash the system,
> no matter what I do with it... right? Even if I run `sudo
> /usr/sbin/crashsystem`, it's running in a userspace application, what can
> it do really?


I disagree. With neither a setuid binary nor my password, it would be a
major problem if a userspace application is allowed to crash the system. If
a buggy application can do so accidentally, then a malicious application
can do so deliberately.

Userspace applications have to make use of kernel facilities for everything
> they do, such as displaying graphics on the screen. A not-entirely-uncommon
> cause of system crashes is bugs being triggered in a GPU driver.


Yes, I forgot to mention that. I specifically included the details about
the GPU driver and kernel modules because I'm guessing that urxvt (or maybe
Xorg) triggered a bug in the GPU driver. I suppose terminal beeps could
trigger a bug in an audio driver, but audio drivers always seemed more
stable to me.

-MD

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