On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote: > cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 16:43:09 -0400, > > > > Dale wrote: > >> Dale wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I posted the other day about my email setup. Then it hit me, while I > >>> copied the settings over, I never tested it. So, I tested it. Sure > >>> enough, no email sent. Got error messages tho. I mostly, maybe only, > >>> use this for SMART drive info. If it detects failure or problems, it > >>> emails me. Well, it's supposed to anyway. So, I test by restarting > >>> smartd and it set to send a test email. > >>> > >>> I'm almost certain this started when Google changed the security setup a > >>> few years back. I've googled and tried the settings others use > >>> including the passkey thingy. None of it works. This is the output of > >>> messages for both smartd and smtp. Check out my fancy egrep. :-D > >>> > >>> > >>> root@Gentoo-1 / # tail -n 50 -f /var/log/messages | egrep 'smartd|sSMTP' > >>> Sep 2 21:23:08 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Monitoring 8 ATA/SATA, 0 > >>> SCSI/SAS and 1 NVMe devices > >>> Sep 2 21:23:08 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Executing test of <mail> to root > >>> ... Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20757]: Unable to connect to > >>> "smtp.gmail.com" port 587. > >>> Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20757]: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587 > >>> Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Test of <mail> to root produced > >>> unexpected output (65 bytes) to STDOUT/STDERR: > >>> Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: mail: cannot send message: > >>> Process exited with a non-zero status > >>> Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Test of <mail> to root: failed > >>> (32-bit/8-bit exit status: 256/1) > >>> Sep 2 21:25:25 Gentoo-1 smartd[20742]: Executing test of <mail> to root > >>> ... Sep 2 21:27:40 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20885]: Unable to connect to > >>> "smtp.gmail.com" port 587. > >>> Sep 2 21:27:40 Gentoo-1 sSMTP[20885]: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> This is a edited version of some config files. Obvious things like > >>> passwords and such changed. > >>> > >>> > >>> root@Gentoo-1 / # cat /etc/ssmtp/revaliases > >>> > >>> root:rdalek<annoy the bots>1...@gmail.com:smtp.gmail.com:587 > >>> dalerdalek<annoy the bots>1...@gmail.com:587 > >>> other_user:rdalek<annoy the bots>1...@gmail.com:587 > >>> root@Gentoo-1 / # > >>> > >>> root@Gentoo-1 / # grep -v '^#' /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf > >>> root=postmaster > >>> root=rdalek1...@gmail.com #Change to your preferred email address > >>> mailhub=smtp.gmail.com:587 #Could also use port 587 for STARTTLS Old > >>> 465 > >>> rewriteDomain=Gentoo-1 #Something to denote your machine's name > >>> FromLineOverride=YES > >>> UseSTARTTLS=YES > >>> #UseTLS=YES > >>> AuthUser=rdalek<annoy the bots>1...@gmail.com > >>> AuthPass=<not real either> #Special characters seem to barf with ssmtp > >>> #AuthPass=abcdefghijklmnop > >>> mailhub=mail > >>> # hostname=_HOSTNAME_ > >>> hostname=Gentoo-1 > >>> root@Gentoo-1 / # > >>> > >>> > >>> I think that is the only config files. If not, I may have missed one > >>> and that is the problem. Some things that are commented out are things > >>> I tried with no success. If someone has a working setup and would like > >>> to share a similar edited version of their files, that would be > >>> awesome. > >>> > >>> Any ideas? Does Google just outright block this now? If so, I have > >>> another good reason to get rid of gmail. :-) > >>> > >>> Dale > >>> > >>> :-) :-) > >> > >> No one here has their system set up to use Gmail for system emails??? > >> Surely there is one person who can share a working config. I just wish > >> Google would stop changing things and screwing up our emails.
ssmtp stopped working with a conventional password when Google introduced 2- Step-Verification for their GMail account. Consequently, to be able to continue using ssmtp you need to set up an 'App Password' and use the 16- character password generated by Google to login: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833 It used to be the case you could set up an 'App Password' without having to provide them with your phone number and other 'none-of-their-business' personal information, but for some years now they have been asking for more information to allow you to complete setting up 'App Password' for your Google account(s) and device(s). > > I would never use a free Email service to send -- its worth exactly > > what you pay for! When the service is offered as being supposedly 'free', you, by providing your data, is the product. > Well, I been wanting to switch but can't find one I know I will like > long term. I don't want to switch then not like it and have to switch > again. Then maybe repeat that a few times. I was thinking about > switching to startmail but they started this captcha stuff which makes > their website unusable for me. Every time I clicked on something, > captcha. Click on something else, captcha. I stopped using startpage > completely after reaching out to them and basically, getting little to > no real help. Shame really. Seemed like a good option. Mass-market services cannot afford providing individual user support. At best they may provide some FAQs. Some may host a forum of sorts for users to offer support to other users. Oh, ... hold on! LOL! > If you know a email service that isn't to expensive but is secure, not > secure enough to block me from doing things I need to do tho, I'm open > to ideas. I'd like something that is outside the USA if possible. You > know, one of those countries that tells folks to go pound sand when they > want to snoop around. ;-) The snooping mostly takes place across borders. Your government's 3-letter agencies will ask whichever other hosting country's agencies to share with them any information they have about you and reciprocate accordingly. There is no privacy on the Internet. That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, something like this may help: https://proton.me/mail
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