Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >> Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz >> >> That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. > The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I didn't check, > but I suspect the integrated graphics are way better in every way than > the little 4-port graphics card you'd prefer. Unless you really need > those extra outputs, I'd use the integrated graphics, and then you > have a 16x slot you can use for IO.
I thought it did. I did look. Plus, no one mentioned it not being the right CPU for a mobo with a built in video. >> The more I think on this, the more I don't like spending this much money >> on a mobo I don't really like at all. It seems all the mobo makers want >> is flashy crap. I want a newer and faster machine but with options to >> expand like my current rig. > Ok, what EXACTLY are you looking for, as you didn't really elaborate > on what this board is missing. It sounds like the ability to > interface more drives? You have a free 16x slot. Stick and HBA in it > and you can interface a whole bunch of SATA drives. With the right > board you could even put NVMe in there. > > Any board you buy is going to be expensive. They went the LGA route > which makes the boards more expensive, and for whatever reason the > prices have all been creeping up. > > Most of the IO on consumer CPUs these days tends to be focused on USB3 > and maybe a few M.2 drives. They're very expandable, but not for the > sorts of things you want to use them for. > > You might be happier with a server/workstation motherboard, but > prepare to pay a small fortune for those unless you buy used, and the > marketing is a bit cryptic as they tend to be sold through > integrators. > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold hooked to it. I was going to post a thread at some point and ask you to help me pick a card and cable set. I dug around and it seems that there is more than one type or something. Cables different. I don't know what. One place says one thing, another says something different. I can't make sense of it. That's in the future tho but I want to plan for it. One thing, I plan to move my current Gigabyte mobo to the Fractal case. After all, it has way more expansion options for drive controllers than the newer mobos. One day tho, the new rig may get moved to the Fractal case, when I build the next new rig. The ASUS won't be up to that task at all. Who knows how many drives I'll have by then. Honestly, I wouldn't mind one m.2 for the OS. I could just as well use a SATA SSD to do that tho. I bought one a while back for the new build anyway. I'd give up two m.2 things to have two more PCIe slots. I'd give up all m.2 things for 3 more PCIe slots. That would give me more options. I have searched Newegg, Amazon, Ebay and other places and even the mobos that cost over double what I'm looking at now still has very few PCIe slots. They all have the flashy stuff and bling tho. I realize the old PCI went away. It got replaced by PCIe which is faster. Thing is, other than the m.2 things, nothing is replacing PCIe except for USB. I've bricked a few hard drives using USB for hard drives. I just don't trust it for hard drives. Works fine for my cell phone and little USB sticks but that's about it for me. Heck, I use at most 4 USB ports, two are for keyboard and mouse. On occasion, I may have two USB sticks in at the same time transferring data. I watched a video where they said there was over a dozen v3.* USB ports on some newer mobos. For me, that's ridiculous. Five would be more than enough for me. I'm wanting a newer rig but what is available right now, at pretty much any cost, isn't worth having. Other than a faster CPU and more memory, I'm downgrading not upgrading. I don't want to have close to $1,000 of regret and a system that won't serve my purpose. I'm seriously thinking that is what I'm going to end up with. Sadly, I don't think there is anything better out there. I checked a skinflint link that was posted on another thread. It lists mobos that have the most PCIe slots. Nothing new. My fear, it gets worse. Later they may not have PCIe slots at all. Maybe if I write Gigabyte, ASUS and others one of them will build mobos that can be expanded. It's almost like they limit us on purpose so we have to buy more of them. It's not like we not paying enough for them already. Prices are just plain crazy. Anyway, I'm on hold again. I'm hoping for something better. I'm just doubtful it is going to happen. Dale :-) :-)
