Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:56 AM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com > <mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > <SNIP> > > Mark, the command nmcli you listed isn't installed on this machine as it > > uses netplan. It seems netplan is new so maybe it is a little buggy > > right now. I read that if I have netplan, I shouldn't install other > > network managers, tools like ifconfig to see things is OK but don't use > > those to "manage" the network. The use of two network managers can and > > likely will cause a clash. That said, I do have ip and route > > installed. Given it is working now, well, no need posting the working > > results. ;-) Since Michael mentioned that netplan is new, that > > explains why I wasn't getting many hits when searching. It's new. > > There likely isn't many hits to find when searching, yet. > <SNIP> > > netplan isn't new. It's been in Ubuntu since 16.04 LTS which was > 2015. What is new is making it the default way of handling > networks. I don't find it buggy and I don't know why you cannot find > help in Google. I'm finding 100's of things to look at without going > to 'Ask Ubuntu' > > netplan status is nice because it shows who rendered a network > whether netplan did it or not. > > It is possible to have multiple renderers on the machine but you > do have to configure things so they don't collide. I do not > recommend you do anything like that. > > For my Kubuntu desktops I actually use System Settings to > set fixed ip addresses but I do agree that cli configuration > for Ubuntu Server can be confusing. However, complaining > about systemd in this day and age seems pointless. It's here > and it isn't going away.
When I was searching for the problem I was having, I think I only found one or two that mentioned netplan. The rest were about other older tools that I didn't have installed. The bad thing, without a network, I couldn't install anything. Since I couldn't find info on what tools I did have, I asked here. I still recall when systemd first started. There was and likely still is a lot of people who don't like, even if they're forced to use it. I did read up on it some. To me, it sound like a mess. Having had to deal with it first hand, it's worse. I'm not putting my true feelings on it on the internet. Let's just say I don't like it. It comes close to hal. Older users of this list might remember that. I got trees and ropes, at the time, I just needed the dev that created hal. When that thing died, the only thing that could have made me happier, winning a massive lottery and/or someone finding a cure for cancer. While I'm sure systemd is here to stay, I still have options. I'm seriously thinking of installing Gentoo on that thing. At least then if it breaks, I can post a thread that isn't off topic. o_O I also just put a pretty large CPU cooler on that thing. Should compile without so much as a mild fever. I'm going to boot it up here shortly. Just to see if the network works. If not, I'm 100% sure Gentoo is coming quick. All I have to do is swap to a different drive. Neil, I tired that command journalctl but not sure about the options. It either returned a lot or nothing related. I'll make note of the systemctl command. If Ubuntu survives, I may need it one day. ;-) That's a big if tho. Thanks to all for the help. Dale :-) :-)
