On 8/28/20 5:00 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/28/20 1:18 PM, antlists wrote:
The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because
stupid network operators block everything else!
I agree that filtering is a problem.
I also think that it's something that most people can overcome when they
control the firewall between the private LAN and the Internet.� (Your
typical SOHO NATing gateway.)
The few times that I have run into filtering, it has been for
uninitiated inbound connections.� I've almost always been able to
initiate outbound connections to / from odd ports.� The few times that I
could not do so in the last 20 years were resolved by engaging the ISP
and ... politely ... getting them to knock it off.� Inbound can be more
tricky.� But even inbound HTTP(S) was subject to the same problems.
Actually, inbound HTTP(S) was more of a problem than other ports.
The more I hear, the more the FEDS and judges need to get involve. From
what I read, it's and education problem. This is commonly referred to as
'racketeering'
and is extremely illegal, meaning the FEDS fine them super high amounts
of money, and judges rubber stamp the fines.
You want to play and compete in the US? A fair economic playground is
constitutionally required. There is so
much case law, that it is ridiculous. What case law does is establish
precedence. And that precedence of relevant case builds a HUGH argument
that most judges will not ignore. Combine that with the fact that the
general public, will side with us? SlameDunk, in legal parlance.
Anyone with access to legal precedence setting case law, can research
this out. I had no idea what a pile of Horse S. this has become. It is
totally illegal. Even if I were to loose, on Gentoo's behalf, a legal
battle, going public will destroy their pierce strings. All of this
should be codified in RFCs, or labeled as optional.
WE do need to get organized, before seeking legal moguls to assist this
public effort.
The more I dig, the more I realize it is way past time to fix this
illegal activity. My guess is a well documented and organized effort is
the first step.
Then a few mavericks educating politicians and filing briefs with the
court systems will get the ball rolling.
I kicked Verizon's Ass, back when they were call GTE, so it's routine
for me to kick some big corps ass. If we get, just 0.1 % of their
subscribers onboard, it's a done deal.
Cell phone criminal activity by the big telco operators is 'part and
parcel' to this HS too. My question is have a few technical devs had
enough? There are plenty of tech-savie High School kids that need
jobs. Think of it as a jobs program. Started here in the US, but easily
expandable to most countries.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/27/china-tech-facebook-google/
James
