On 2019.12.30 18:21, Dale wrote:
Jack wrote:
> On 2019.12.30 17:43, Dale wrote:
>> Jack wrote:
>> > On 2019.12.30 15:04, Dale wrote:
>> >> Howdy,
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I ran up on a used DSL modem that supports IPv6.  It was cheap so figured why not.  Ironically, it is also a router.  It's a Netgear Frontier B90-755044-15 sometimes referred to as the 7550.   Anyway, I tried all the usual IPs to access the thing, no luck.  I tried resetting it, holding the reset button for 7 seconds.  That didn't help either.  I've googled and tried all the IPs I can find that way too.  None of this is working.  The lights and all come up like it should.  It seems to be working fine, just can't access it to set it up. 
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Is there a way to find the IP for this thing?  I'm out of ideas here.  Anyone own one of these and can share their defaults?  Why don't they put the default IP on the bottom anyway??? 
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>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Dale
I think I probably had one of those years ago, before switching to cable.  If your PC uses DHCP, then you should be able to do "ip a" and find the subnet (perhaps 192.168.1)  You might then try 254 as the last octet.  Using traceroute might also show you the address.  If you want/need to dig out the big guns, wireshark should also provide some useful info.
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>> > Jack
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I've never noticed the ip command before, not that I remember anyway.  I did try ipconfig before tho.  While I tried to use ip, I may not be using it correctly.  Actually, most likely I'm not.  The help page was little help either. 
At some point ifconfig disappeared for me, and I finally found ip as the closest for getting the same data.  (I now do have ifconfig back.)  I think those differences depend on specific versions of various network utilities.

Somehow I have both. 

>> This is the IPs I've tried so far:
>> http://192.168.0.1/
>> http://192.168.0.5
>> http://192.168.0.254/
>> http://192.168.0.255/
>> http://192.168.1.1/
>> http://192.168.1.5
>> http://192.168.1.254
>> http://192.168.1.255
>> http://192.168.2.1
>> http://192.168.2.5
>> http://192.168.2.254
>> http://192.168.2.255
>> http://192.168.254.254/
That last one matches something I just found on the Frontier site for that router.  Have you tried a hard reset to factory settings on the router?  Is there anything useful actually printed on the bottom of the router?  You might need a bright light and a magnifying glass :-)

Nope.  Usually, they stick the default IP and way back in the stone age of puters, a default password.  If worse comes to worse, reset and start fresh with known info.  This one has nothing about a IP address or anything like it.  It has some info for the wireless part but that's it.  It has a Mac address but I don't think that works in my browser. 

>> I think I tried 128 on the end at one point as well.
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Even tho I have dhcp set up and the ethernet light shows it is connected, I still restart eth1 just to be sure.  Then I run ifconfig and take the info from there to start trying addresses.  I figure the 3rd part might narrow it down a bit.   Then I try some others even if they don't make a lot of sense to try.  This is what ipconfig usually shows for eth1:
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>> root@fireball / # ifconfig
>> eth1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
>>         inet 192.168.2.5  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.0.255
Something smells fishy here.  Why are inet and broadcast not on the same network?  They should differ only in the last octet, given the netmask.  I'm also very surprised the router is at .5 and not either .1 or .254.
I noticed that too.  I don't recall ever seeing it set up that way and it makes me curious.  That said, I tried all the usual options with the first two parts for both addresses.  No joy.

>>         inet6 fe80::201:53ff:fe80:dc35  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
>>         ether 00:01:53:80:dc:35  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
>>         RX packets 43311747  bytes 60136286625 (56.0 GiB)
>>         RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
>>         TX packets 33539185  bytes 2574220465 (2.3 GiB)
>>         TX errors 2  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
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To be honest, it doesn't seem to change from when I'm hooked to the older hardware. I dunno.
I just noticed this. If you are not completely resetting the PCs connection info when swapping between the two different routers, you will definitely have problems. I might even resort to a 30:30:30 reset of the router (I'd have to look up the details myself), be sure your PC knows it is disconnected from network, reconnect, and see if this info resets. I'd consider not just doing an ip down ip up type reset, but using the open-rc or systemd incantation to restart the network service completely. (The extreme version would be a reboot, but that sounds too MS.)
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>> Open to ideas if anyone has some. 
> Can you get to the internet?  If so, then a traceroute might show
> where the packets think they are going.  If not, then you may not have
> a proper connection between the router and PC.  Those mismatched
> network numbers could be the issue.  (I don't know if you are sending > these messages using that connection, or sending from another device.)
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>> Dale
> Jack

Right now, I'm on my old hardware.  When I hook up the new, to me, hardware, I have to disconnect the old hardware.  If nothing else, I was concerned both might have the same address, both being modems basically, and would result in a conflict.  When I connect to the new hardware, I can't get anywhere, yet.  The DSL signal is there since the light is on but it can't connect since I can't access it to give it the user/password info. 
You can plug the new router (power) but NOT connect it to the DSL line. That way, you can connect your computer to it to play with the IP address issues, and then just reconnect your PC to the old router (still connected to the outside world) to communicate. Probably a bit less effort to switch back and forth that way.

Bizarre new thought: have you tried putting the IPV6 address from ifconfig into the browser?

I've never ran into this before.  Usually when I buy a modem or a router, I can eventually find it without even googling for the IP.  Generally the ones listed above will get me to the new device.  This one, has me stumped.  Either it is broke somehow or it has one strange ip address. 
Being broke is certainly a possibility, but I'm thinking more that the router and PC just aren't getting in sync rather than a strange router setting. Another reason to try a factory reset on the router, not just a power cycle.

Thanks for the help.  Maybe I'll find gold at some point.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 




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