On December 11, 2018 2:00:45 AM UTC, "taii...@gmx.com" <taii...@gmx.com> wrote: >On 12/10/2018 05:54 PM, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:33:10 -0500, taii...@gmx.com wrote: >>> >>>>> Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I >>>>> wouldn't trust Western European countries either. >>>> USA is currently the best option since there have never been proven >>>> backdoors in made in usa hardware but plenty in chinese made >hardware >>>> such as the recent motherboard hack chip scandal. >>> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their back >>> doors? >>> >>> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems made >in >>> China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher. >>> >>> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of security. >>> > >So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing?
I can't think of any. >Name one other country on earth besides america where you can say no to >a governmental request for a backdoor in your hardware or software >products and not end up in prison. The USA can send someone to prison if he/she refuses a request by the government. It is called being a traitor. In other words, I still don't consider the USA to be a reliable origin either. >In the mean time will you continue to buy chinese products with proven >backdoors since getting that is somehow better than something that is >only almost perfect? Here is the thing, there isn't anything proven. >The amd bulldozer and piledriver CPU's like the FX-8350 and its opteron >counterparts are made in germany (the packaging is done in china but at >that point afaik there isn't much that can be done to fuck with it) but >that still wouldn't satisfy you since germany doesn't have anything >like >the constitution - they have no freedom of speech. Please do read up on other countries before making these claims. A Constitution is not a requirement for Freedom of Speech. Part of that is Freedom of Press, your own President is destroying that as much as he can. >The future of freedom computing is OpenPOWER and RISC-V since they are >the only owner controlled archs that have real performance and >features, >in other words they have juice. Unless you are confident production is real and nothing was added, OpenPower can be compromised as well. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
