On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 8:45 AM Grand Duet <grand.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anyway, it is a good idea to write a news on changing python_targets > and major version of gcc, even if no developper expects any troubles, > because we already know their predictive (dis)ability. :) >
You won't get any argument from me there - more news is usually better. If nothing else people want to know they don't have to do something when they see 200 packages being upgraded. > > Did this even impact the stable branch? > > Yes. Hmm, I suspect I didn't sync before it was reverted. Either that or I noticed the noise on the lists and waited a day. This is one issue with our news - it isn't really realtime. If we want people to hold the presses and re-sync they don't get that notice until they've already re-synced. > May be, adding some additional "almost stable" level between > "stable" and "unstable" one to make "stable" stable indeed? If anything it seems like the proposal to drop stable comes along every few years. I don't see anybody being eager to add another level of QA. A big practical issue would be that unless people are actually using the two lower levels significantly then nothing is actually getting checked before going to stable. There is really no reason you couldn't have a release-based Gentoo derivative. Everything is in git. All "somebody" needs to do is start a repo with a release-driven workflow that treats Gentoo as the upstream master branch, targeting changes for release branches and then doing release candidates and QA/etc. Then those release-based users would sync from there instead of the upstream Gentoo repo. Ideally somebody would bundle it with a reference binary repo that people could optionally sync from to speed installs for packages where they're not changing USE flags. The problem is that this all takes quite a bit of work, and I'm skeptical that it would ever happen. However, for larger Gentoo deployments in production environments I suspect most are doing things more-or-less in this fashion, but just with the packages they care about. If somebody has 100 production servers running Gentoo I doubt they are set to just sync from us. Rather they would set up their own mirror and carefully test portage snapshots before they go rolling them out. -- Rich