2015-05-29 17:46 GMT+03:00 Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com>: > On Friday 29 May 2015 05:24:49 Gevisz wrote: >> On Fri, 29 May 2015 00:41:08 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann > <volkerar...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> > Am 28.05.2015 um 17:35 schrieb gevisz: >> > > In my everyday work at the computer, I read >> > > and type at three or even four different languages. >> > > >> > > However, I do want to have all program menues >> > > and system messages only in English. >> > > >> > > So, when I found out that it can be achieved by >> > > setting -nls USE flag at my make.conf file, I did >> > > it, recompiled the system and for a few weeks >> > > enjoyed the full control of my Gentoo system. >> > > >> > > (As far as I can remember the gettext package >> > > was successfully depcleaned from my Gentoo >> > > system just after that.) >> > > >> > > However, after those few weeks (and some system >> > > updates), I have noticed that my system started >> > > to translate some "system" messages into one of >> > > the languages I use but which is not my native language. >> > > >> > > Moreover, running >> > > $ equery depends gettext >> > > I get about two fullscreens of packages that supposedly >> > > depend on gettext. Nevertheless, in all of them the -nls >> > > USE flag is either unset or absent. >> > > >> > > I have tried to depclean the gettext package from my >> > > system once again but portage just ignored my >> > > $ emerge --depclean gettext >> > > command. >> > > >> > > I think that it is some kind of a bug in the portage tree: >> > > when I set -nls USE flag globally, I do expect that the "system" >> > > messages will appear in English only and will not be translated >> > > in any other language, but the system understands that as >> > > I would have asked for a "non-native" language support. >> > > >> > > Of course, this is not my main problem in this life, but every >> > > time I get the "system" messages translated into my non-native >> > > language, I feel as I get a reminder that I do not have a full >> > > control of my Gentoo system. >> > > >> > > So, my questions are: >> > > 1. Is it a bug? >> > > 2. How can I get rid of those unwelcomed translations in the right way. >> > >> > 1. If a package hard depends on gettext, you can fiddle around with >> > useflags as much as you want, it won't change. Not a bug. Just the way >> > it is. >> >> If a package hard depend on gettext, it is a bug, IMHO. >> >> > 2. Environment variables. Set them. LANG, LANGUAGE and of course LC_ALL >> >> $ echo $LANG >> en_US.UTF-8 >> $ echo $LANGUAGE >> %%% This environment variable is not set >> $ echo $LC_ALL >> %%% This environment variable is not set >> >> Why the system suddenly decided that my native language is one of >> the easten-europien ones, then? >> >> And a month or two ago, all the system messages was in English >> with exactly the same evironment variables setting. (And packages >> did not hard-depend on gettext.) Strange. > > Do you get anything unexpected when you run 'locale'?
Nothing. (Thank you for your question.) I have just re-read the Gentoo Localization Guide (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Localization/Guide) and checked what I have in my /etc/env.d/02locale file: every possible option, except for LC_COLLATE and LC_ALL, is set to en_US.UTF-8. Here is its full content: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" Here is what I get from $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= I am almost giving up on this issue.
