Rich Freeman <rich0 <at> gentoo.org> writes:


> > Surely we have a container project now, but no
> > active cluster herd or project. 


> In any FOSS activity the #1 issue tends to be people willing to do the
> work.  If we have that, then there is no reason to let anything else
> stand in the way.  There are devs who are willing to proxy-maintain,
> and if you just need a dev to put a page up on the wiki to call it a
> project I'm sure somebody would be willing... Rich


Well well well. Thank you for standing up. I'm going to privately
work on this (cluster folks, java folks and science folks) whilst
your team of devs figures out the final configuration of
devs/projects/bug-wranglers. If you guys are successful in pulling this off,
I have
noticed several corporations with many gentoo-java-ebuilds that might
throw a few crumbs our way. Java has sunken to such a low level on
gentoo, that companies that use Java && Gentoo rarely bother with
contributing back. I cannot speak for them, but I know they watch
and listen from time to time. Java is every bit as big and important
as python is, from a worldly perspective. Gentoo_ers that wish to
be relevant, cannot merely wish this away. Java is a fundamental, enabling
technology and it should be robustly supported by those within gentoo
that care (Despite anything Whoracle does). Yes I am stepping up for this
need, mostly because it is in my critical path now.   I guess I'm acting
like a dev now? Cursed-Beloved?

I'm most willing to support others that want to pursue the cluster work that
is needed. I shall give them every opportunity to lead (those of us newer to
the cluster arena). But in the  end, I'm about getting the work done one way
or another. 

I do appreciate you and Michael for your efforts on this and other 
gentoo issues. I'm trying to be "collegial"  but, I have my viking
heretical issues, like some other over_achievers we all know..... 
One way or another we'll have a robust gentoo cluster offering; I'm just not
sure how long it will take, but we are going to have some fun!

Maybe we'll run cinelerra/blender on the gentoo clusters and build some
"anime" comics of the gentoo dev characters? Clustering will be
a blast! There is one who has done amazing things with clustering
codes and anime  on gentoo clusters already; 
but he remains aloof from gentoo. 
He is also quite young. 


thx,
James






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