On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: >>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 >>> >>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision >>>> still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been >>>> bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils. >>>> >>>> Anyone that feels like doing it can now step up to the plate and >>>> continue the work upower was doing earlier. >>> I don't understand the development status of upower-pm-utils. Is there >>> someone either upstream or with Gentoo committed to maintaining it? >> No, nobody is actively working on it, it's the abandoned upstream git >> branch that used to be master before 0.99.0's release: >> >> Current sys-power/upower-pm-utils is same as latest code from >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/log/?h=0.9 >> And last commit is 2013 >> >> I might backport some fixes from git master over at some point later, >> but I won't do any promises >> >>> Or >>> is it a git branch created just to meet the current needs of >>> non-systemd Gentoo users? >> It's to be considered as a temporary solution for applications that need >> the Hibernate and Suspend functionality >> from UPower for non-systemd users, applications like >> mate-session-manager, lxsession, uevt, and so forth >> >> Migrating to >=sys-power/upower-0.99.0 is the recommended path to take >> if at all possible. It's possible for eg. >> Xfce users, because Xfce in ~arch integrated sys-power/pm-utils support >> directly for Hibernate and Suspend >> Also, GNOME 3.12 requires 0.99.0 > Hi Samuli, > > Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo > user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to > continue > using sleep and hibernate? >
For those tasks you mentioned... ...if other desktops don't migrate like Xfce, then something like: Switching to a) systemd, OR b) switching to Xfce (direct pm-utils support in session and power managers), OR c) switching to command line pm-* utilities directly from pm-utils ...might be inevitable And if Linux kernel does changes that break pm-utils, which haven't had a single commit since 2010 in upstream repository: Switching to a) systemd, OR, b) wait, no other possibilities Yes, that's really how poor the situation is, and don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger :-) - Samuli
