On 28/05/2014 11:58, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 May 2014 23:35:26 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 27/05/2014 17:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> I have a yearly (full), monthly, weekly and daily. Each incremental is
>>> against the most recent one of itself or longer period.
>>> That means having to keep multiple snapshots active, which I prefer to
>>> avoid.
>>>
>>> But, it is a good idea for backing up desktops and laptops.
>>
>> I'm curious why you have yearly snapshots. I've yet to find any sane
>> production system where a yearly backup had any worth at all. Even
>> monthly is pushing it...
>>
>> Or do you do it to have a decent start point for incrementals?
> 
> It's to have a decent start point for incrementals.
> Below are the 2 biggest shares on the NAS:
> 
> /dev/xvda17             7.1T  5.9T  1.2T  84% /data/unsorted
> /dev/xvda16             3.0T  2.4T  517G  83% /data/software
> 
> It is impossible to do a full backup on a daily or even weekly basis.
> 
> Previously, I had 1 full backup and then a daily incremental. This appears 
> like a good idea, untill you need to restore the filesystem from backups when 
> the crash occured 2 years later.
> That is 1 full backup and over 700 incrementals....
> 
> Currently, I do the following:
> Every year, a full backup
> Then, every month, I have an incremental based on either the yearly or 
> previous monthly.
> Ditto for the weekly (but then based on monthly or weekly)
> And again for the daily.



OK, that makes sense.

It reminds me of an issue my wife had with the data warehouse when she
worked at the bank. In a nutshell, they needed backups but backups were
impossible to achieve because physics says so. They needed to get data
off the disk 4 times faster than data comes off a disk - SCSI limits
being rather hard limits :-) That opinion didn't go down well when I
offered it

The solution was to do it much like your plan above.
With the benefit that the infrequent full backups would be done on a
fixed schedule in a change window with X hours downtime that was known
well in advance.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


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