On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
>
>>    Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
>> of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
>> when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
>> udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this (using the
>> PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager,
>> ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, gnome-color-manager,
>> usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip, multipath, Argyll,
>> VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of other stuff. [1]
>
> How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are
> mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G modem, play
> sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may be needed, but
> the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red herring too.

It is a red herring.
I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to put "/" on
LVM as well.
When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were no issues
with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about / and /usr
not being able to umount during shutdown.

--
Joost


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