On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > On 2013-08-18 10:55 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's >> decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an >> initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the >> best *technical* decision? (*gasp*) > > > That is *not* the concern here, Canek, and that should be obvious from the > comments here.
It's not obvious at all. > Repeat: the primary concern is *not* about separate /usr without initramfs. See the last batch of emails; but even before a lot of people stated that their concern was the separate /usr withouth an initramfs dropping support. > The primary concern is that systemd will eventually be shoved down our > throats whether we want it or not, and using eudev or mdev or *anything* > other than systemd (ie OpenRC/eudev) will. That makes no sense: the OpenRC maintainer is the one pushing the change. > And the track record speaks for itself, regardless of *any* promises that it > won't, it is obvious to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that this > is a blatant LIE. Seriosly? If you don't trust the OpenRC maintainer then you are running out of options. > Everything that is happening is simply setting the stage for precisely that. Nah. That's FUD, simply. Again, dropping support for separate /usr without initramfs is being pushed by the OpenRC maintainer, because it needs that to effectively competing with systemd. Really, read the Gentoo Project ML. >> When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even >> *the OpenRC maintainer* (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the >> systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps, >> just*perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW, >> >> they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are >> overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong? > > > Again, the main issue is not about separate /usr, so please stop trying to > deflect the subject... Stop spreding FUD. > In my opinion, the single largest reason to *not* switch to systemd in > gentoo is the source of the push - in other words, it is coming from Fedora > - and GNOME lovers are the maintainers. Who's advocating for switching Gentoo to systemd? Citation please. Really guys, get your facts straight. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
