On 12/08/13 15:38, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> wrote:
On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> wrote:
True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's
how maintainership works.
But trying to lie to people it's somehow solving something currently is
annoying as 'ell and should be corrected where seen.
It is solving the problem of *when* (not if - if the words I have read
from the systemd maintainers can be taken at face value) the systemd
maintainers decide to pull the plug on the ability to have a
systemd-less udev...
Then we will carry a minimal patchset on top of sys-fs/udev that will keep
it working without systemd for long as it's sustainable.
And at this point it's pointless to talk of forking yet, it should be done
only when it's required.
It is done ahead so it won't be too late, as you say... eudev is
"minimal patch set" over systemd.
Someone should have forked the logind as well ahead, so the whole
gmone discussion was irrelevant.
It's not too late to fork logind in anyway, it's down to 204 in git and
then review commits from there up to current w/ the required patches
Ubuntu carries for non-systemd operation (yes, logind from 204 never
worked without patching either but the patches were just a lot less than
what 206 would need).
But nobody has been willing to do the work. It was propably for the best
we didn't ever adopt it at all since it's not sane to package software
you can't then keep maintained.
- Samuli
