On 26/05/2013 13:03, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 26/05/2013 11:51, Dale wrote:
>>
>>> What package provides the kicker thingy?  I think in KDE3 it was called
>>> kicker but it appears to have changed to something else.  Is that
>>> krunner that has it now?
>> Maybe it's time you used the "thingy" suffix a little less and the real
>> names of things a little more :-)
>>
>> What thing are you asking about? The panel that is usually at the bottom
>> and holds the plasma widgets? Or the thin popup you get with Alt-F2?
>>
>> The panel is called plasma-desktop and comes from kde-base/plasma-workspace
>> The popup is krunner and comes from kde-base/krunner
>>
>> I doubt very much it's a real bug as such in either KDE app (although
>> the fix might go in there). It looks much more to me like a side-effect
>> of IO blocking - two or more apps are trying to get something done and
>> unexpectedly are not getting answers, so they hang around waiting in the
>> doorway and get get in the way of everything else. And just for fun,
>> video drivers are also trying to get in on the act as they have to deal
>> with mouse pointer repaints...
>>
>> Debugging this one is going to be fun (for peculiar definitions of fun)
>>
>>
> 
> The thingy is the thing at the bottom where I can switch desktops, click
> the K menu and where my clock is.  I think it was called Kicker in
> KDE3.  KDE4 seems to have changed it but not sure what the new name is. 

It's a plasma widget called a panel, the only useful thing it does is to
be a container for other widgets that do useful stuff.

The panel is started by plasma-desktop as one of the standard widgets it
manages. The idea is to give you stuff on the screen that looks more or
less like a familiar desktop. Plasma can do other things and give you
completely different layouts; like for instance not giving you a panel
at all. This would be useful on a phone with small screen

The whole thing is heavily event based and has to react to a bucket load
of system events being generated such as what the mouse is doing.
There's a fantastic number of ways this could go wrong, some might be
plasma's fault, some might be faults that happen to plasma

> 
> I hope they fix this thing soon.  If they remove the driver from the
> tree, I'm in a bit of a pickle. 

No, you won't be. You have the ebuild right now, copy it to your overlay
and "remove" becomes something that will not happen



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