Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM, <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM, <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM, <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:07 PM, <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:56 PM, <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Hi. I have not used pulseaudio at all, but with gnome 3.8 I
> >> >> >> >> > guess it
> >> >> >> >> > must be there, but when I try to play a sound using either
> >> >> >> >> > mplayer from
> >> >> >> >> > the console which works fine withalsa, or even aplay, I get no
> >> >> >> >> > sound
> >> >> >> >> > unless I change the /etc/pulse/client.conf to spawn=no .
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Unless you have a very specific setup, you should not need to
> >> >> >> >> touch
> >> >> >> >> the files under /etc/pulse. Also, are you trying to run the
> >> >> >> >> system-wide PulseAudio service? Because that's basically wrong:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/WhatIsWrongWithSystemWide
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Anyway to fix this?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> If you are running PA as a normal user (as you should), then
> >> >> >> >> perhaps
> >> >> >> >> the per-application volume for MPlayer is muted. While playing
> >> >> >> >> something with MPlayer, go to Settings -> Sound, then select the
> >> >> >> >> Applications tab, and there should be a volume slider for all the
> >> >> >> >> applications using audio. Just adjust as necessary.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I got no sound when pa was run as a user. I am running these apps
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > the console -- apps such as aplay or anything which uses alsa. So
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > can't adjust any volumes under gnome, etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, from the console you can use pactl. To play a sample sound
> >> >> >> there, do:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> pactl play-sample 0
> >> >> >> pactl play-sample 1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It should work. You can also set the volume from here:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> pactl set-sink-volume 0 "100%"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 0 is usually the "master" volume.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Check out man pactl.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well, in either system or user mode, root can play sound whereas a
> >> >> > regular user gets silent, but without pulseaudio -- spawn=no, then a
> >> >> > regular user can play sound. Does this give a clue?
> >> >>
> >> >> Not really; as I said, the PA documentation clearly says that if you
> >> >> use system mode "You are on your own. You need to know you way around,
> >> >> be able to write init scripts, dbus policies, to fix up device
> >> >> permissions, and unix users, you need to pass around security cookies
> >> >> and more."
> >> >>
> >> >> I haven't ever used system-wide PA.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think of the following; try to delete both /root/.pulse and
> >> >> $HOME/.pulse, and rebooting (probably a logout/login should suffice,
> >> >> but you never know).
> >> >>
> >> >> Another thing: if you installed PA since GNOME 3.8 needs it, why are
> >> >> you using it without GNOME? If you use GNOME, the session manager will
> >> >> automatically start PA as a user for you, and everything should work.
> >> >> If you are not running GNOME, why do you run PA? If you are at the
> >> >> console without X running, just don't use PA. Use mplayer -ao alsa or
> >> >> whatever.
> >> >>
> >> >> Or do you want to run several audio apps in the console?
> >> >
> >> > I want to run apps from the console, but to start gnome when I need it.
> >>
> >> Then do that. When you start GNOME, it will start PA automatically:
> >> you don't need to do anything. Don't try to start PA yourself; it's
> >> DBus activated.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I am running pa as a user and things are still not working, except for
> >> > the root user who can play sounds.
> >>
> >> I repeat: you don't need to run PA. GNOME will start it for you.
> >
> > But will that workif I have spawn=no in my /etc/pulse/client.conf which
> > I have to have for regular apps to work from theconsole? Or is there
> > some other way to make this happen?
>
> I don't understand the question. If you don't run PA by yourself, then
> it will be started only when using GNOME. And if you are using GNOME,
> you can use the nice sound settings dialog to get your sound.
>
> If you don't start GNOME, then PA will not be started. If you don't
> have sound in your console even without PA running, then is for some
> issue completely unrelated to PA.
>
> PA should not be started if you only log in through the console.
> Unless you are still running it system-wide, which is basically
> unsupported.
OK, we will see what happens, so I have set spawn=no which should work
to prevent pa except in gnome, so hopefully that should work.
Thanks for clarifying this for me.
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