On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 > Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > > > Alex Schuster <wo...@wonkology.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > > > <n...@digimed.co.uk <mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P > > > > > > > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" > > > > > > > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using > > > > MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that > > > > are not reproducible with a fixed number of jobs, regardless how > > > > large. > > > > > > Yes indeed, and that one is good advice. > > > > > > Not every Makefile out there is safe for -j > 1, so running it as > > > one job is valid debugging. It's the correct thing to do with weird > > > build failures as it tests if a specific condition is true or not. > > > > > > > > Yeah, except I've already gone that route, or otherwise ruled it out, > > before I ask. That's why it's grating. (Even more grating when I have > > to spend the time building a package again, just to convince someone > > that, no, it's not MAKEOPTS that's the problem.) > > > > It's like "Have you tried turning it off and back on again". > > I learned that one the hard way :-) > > Now when I submit support posts, I try emulate what bgo asks: > > 1. nature of problem > 2. what have I tried already > 3. steps to reproduce > 4. result gotten > 5. expected result > 6. relevant config files and settings > > Tends to weed out a lot of the silly auto-bot style answers > > I'm going through one on launchpad right now where I indicated that I couldn't get beeps out of xterm, but I could get sound from sound-emitting websites. (Trying to get x11 bell to function via PulseAudio via work laptop) First response? "Needs information: Can you get sound from other sound apps?" #pulseaudio simply ignored me. And googling turns up that Lennart hates the X server as being a funnel for sound events. I was physically twitching by the time I gave up... -- :wq
