On Jul 28, 2012 8:03 AM, "Michael Mol" <mike...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:30 PM, microcai <micro...@fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

--- >8 Major Snippage

> > As far as I can tell, AMD chip suffered with a lot of I/O. Their
> > Hyper-transport seems not competitive with Intel's ring bus
>

Wasn't Intel's answer to HyperTransport is the QuickPath bus? IIRC, the
ring bus is internal to a processor. (I could be wrong, though).

> (please don't top-post, especially if the thread's already been
> primarily organized as bottom-post)
>
> I hadn't read that, but remember that HyperTransport is intended for a
> mesh architecture. In single-CPU systems, you'll only have one HT
> link, the link between your CPU and your north bridge. In multi-CPU
> systems, you'll have additional links between the CPUs. In systems
> with many CPUs, you may even have a fully-connected mesh.
>
> The I/O characteristics will greatly depend on the topology of your
network.
>
> That said, HyperTransport may just be getting old; when it came out,
> it (and AMD's crossbar switch for memory management) beat the pants
> off of Intel's SMP solution. Intel's solution ran at lower and lower
> clock rates the more CPUs you added, and their first pass at multicore
> gave each core its own port onto the memory bus, with predictably poor
> results. Intel's had plenty of time to catch up, but with their
> price-per-part, it's taken me a long time to pay much attention.
>

Again, I might be mistaken, but IIRC HyperTransport's throughput depends on
how many channels are provided, so there's no theoretical limitation to its
throughput, just practical considerations. (E.g., tracing issues).

> (It also doesn't help that Jon "Hannibal" Stokes stopped writing
> detailed technical articles for Ars Technica; I sincerely miss him and
> the precision and clarity of his writing on such arcane subjects.)
>

That makes the two of us bro... BTW, my handle there's "pepoluan", just in
case you see it in the forums.

Rgds,

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