On Monday 12 Sep 2011 13:11:51 Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 9/11/2011 8:28 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: > > On Sunday, September 11 at 18:54 (-0500), Dale said: > >> I think I saw it mentioned on -dev that some time shortly /usr > >> and /var > >> will be needed on / or you will need the init* thingy to boot. > > > > Hmm, that doesn't smell right to me. What I think you may have heard is > > about /run. systemd and some other things are preferring to > > move /var/run to /run. The reason being is that /var does not have to > > be on the root fs. sysdemd needs /run early (before mounting > > filesystems) so the idea was to put /var/run on the rootfs, thus /run. > > > > I don't think /usr should or ever will be required to be on the rootfs. > > That's just dumb. The reason we have /bin /sbin, etc. is so that /usr > > need not be on the rootfs. It doesn't make sense to change that well > > known/established notion. > > Nope, Dale is exactly correct. If the upcoming changes to > udev make it into Gentoo unaltered and unscathed, it will > become necessary to have essentially your full system > available very early in the boot process -- at least as > early as when udev runs. This includes /usr, where I believe > the udev scripts and libraries are being moved, and anything > that any program in those scripts might access, which almost > definitely includes /var. > > Any setup where only / is mounted when udev's device > population happens will become "unsupported" (if not > "impossible"). > > The proposed alternative to a single huge partition is to > use an initramfs that mounts your separate /usr (and /var) > very early in the boot process.
No! This is throwing a major spanner on all my boxen! Arrrrgh! :@ There's a lot of Gentoo users and I would imagine other Linux users who do not use initr* and still have a separate /var (because of logs, or mail, or news, or PORTAGE_TMPDIR, etc.). I seriously hope that a Gentoo specific fix comes out soon and Fedora and their devs can carry on this way. This M$Windows 'solution' looks more and more like major bad programming and is getting really really stupid! </rant> -- Regards, Mick
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